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Why mandatory background checks matter for for gun purchases

 
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Channel GannoK
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:09 pm    Post subject: Why mandatory background checks matter for for gun purchases Reply with quote

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/more-80-percent-guns-used-mass-shootings-obtained-legally-n474441
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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About nine percent of background checks require further investigation, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

For 9% that need longer than 3 days? And according to the linked article many dealers refuse to sell unless they pass the check in the 3 days.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you know, not have guns for sale at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Why mandatory background checks matter for for gun purch Reply with quote

Channel GannoK wrote:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/more-80-percent-guns-used-mass-shootings-obtained-legally-n474441
And you think they purchased all of those explosives legally too? Give me a break...Gun control laws might prevent a 9 year old from shooting up a school, but the San Bernardino were muslim immigrant terrorists who killed everyone in the name of Jihad. Gun control has no effect on terrorists.

Actually, considering the terrorists immigrated here less than 2 years ago, it sounds like an issue of national security.

Concealed-handgun permits were responsible for 722 deaths over almost eight years. It puts things in context when one realizes there are currently more than 12 million concealed-handgun permits in the U.S.

An annual death toll of 93 would mean that, each year, 0.00078 percent of concealed-carry permit holders were responsible for a shooting death.

Not to mention that California is already the "liberal utopia" when it comes to gun laws.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ban them already. Fuck the second amendment.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a good psychopath would slip through the cracks and still deliver untold devastation

i was actually surprised to find out that there's such little psychiatric evaluation when it comes to getting a firearm.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
a good psychopath would slip through the cracks and still deliver untold devastation

i was actually surprised to find out that there's such little psychiatric evaluation when it comes to getting a firearm.
most psychopaths aren't straight out murderers though
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brolock wrote:
greatsage wrote:
a good psychopath would slip through the cracks and still deliver untold devastation

i was actually surprised to find out that there's such little psychiatric evaluation when it comes to getting a firearm.
most psychopaths aren't straight out murderers though

This.

Also, in order to keep firearms federally out of the mentally disabled/unstable/ill, you would have to:

1. Legally define what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is. For example, can someone with ADHD be allowed to purchase a gun?

2. Once you legally defined what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is, you have to legally segregate this group of people with Jim Crow-esque laws in order to deny them constitutional rights. (not just the 2nd amendment, but also the 9th and 14th.)

The fact that people are pushing to legally define and segregate the mentally disabled, and denying them their constitutional rights is beyond disgusting to me. This is not a solution to gun crime. This is Jim Crow 2.0.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clifford wrote:
Brolock wrote:
greatsage wrote:
a good psychopath would slip through the cracks and still deliver untold devastation

i was actually surprised to find out that there's such little psychiatric evaluation when it comes to getting a firearm.
most psychopaths aren't straight out murderers though

This.

Also, in order to keep firearms federally out of the mentally disabled/unstable/ill, you would have to:

1. Legally define what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is. For example, can someone with ADHD be allowed to purchase a gun?

2. Once you legally defined what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is, you have to legally segregate this group of people with Jim Crow-esque laws in order to deny them constitutional rights. (not just the 2nd amendment, but also the 9th and 14th.)

The fact that people are pushing to legally define and segregate the mentally disabled, and denying them their constitutional rights is beyond disgusting to me. This is not a solution to gun crime. This is Jim Crow 2.0.


Easy answer: No one gets guns == we're all equal.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
Clifford wrote:
Brolock wrote:
greatsage wrote:
a good psychopath would slip through the cracks and still deliver untold devastation

i was actually surprised to find out that there's such little psychiatric evaluation when it comes to getting a firearm.
most psychopaths aren't straight out murderers though

This.

Also, in order to keep firearms federally out of the mentally disabled/unstable/ill, you would have to:

1. Legally define what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is. For example, can someone with ADHD be allowed to purchase a gun?

2. Once you legally defined what mentally disabled/unstable/ill is, you have to legally segregate this group of people with Jim Crow-esque laws in order to deny them constitutional rights. (not just the 2nd amendment, but also the 9th and 14th.)

The fact that people are pushing to legally define and segregate the mentally disabled, and denying them their constitutional rights is beyond disgusting to me. This is not a solution to gun crime. This is Jim Crow 2.0.


Easy answer: No one gets guns == we're all equal.


"No Guns"
doesn't mean we are all equal, you couldn't be anymore wrong...

If the civilians are disarmed and the police remains armed, police brutality and government corruption will skyrocket. Democide--which ironically liberals pledge to combat democide--will take more lives than ever before.

If you disarm EVERYBODY, America will be a lawless shithole. The president would die almost instantly because the snipers atop the White House would be gone. America is the largest terrorist target in the world, disarming the police would considerably cause a massive spike in successful terrorist attacks like the one in California. Why do you think we give guns to the police? Guns stop crime.




Keeping the military, police, and citizens armed is what keeps America balanced.
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