Cheat Engine

++METHOS · Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject:

That's why you write a script.

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:27 am Post subject:

Rydian · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:48 am Post subject:

Well you need to find the address(es) that holds the timer value in the first place.

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:52 am Post subject:

Thought I had found it now, but the game crashed when I Alt-Tab back to it Sad

The game is Robot Wars Arenas of Destruction, if that helps.

I did already with a tool called QuickBMS mod the game to play as the "unplayable" overpowered house robots, and now my target is the timer, to freeze it. Smile

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject:

Could I go for the "String" value type? Because then I find the visible timer address :/

Rydian · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:42 pm Post subject:

Have you tried unknown initial scan and then just increased/decreased and changed/unchanged?

Not "increased by" or anything that requires you to type in the numbers you see. Don't type those numbers in because they're wrong. If they were right you would have it.

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:47 pm Post subject:

Yes, but all minutes, seconds and milliseconds confuse me what value type it is? :S

EDIT: Been trying this for days now, without success Sad

I am about to give up on this. Even though the game is from 2001, and it should be real easy to achieve this, but not Sad

Also, the game crashes often when I seem to have found it...

dharthoorn · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:57 pm Post subject:

Flash games have a weird preference for floating values in my humble experience. Try unkown floating value and keep searching for decreasing value.

When you really cant get the results down to 200~300 then go for the brute force; add all addresses to the table and start freezing them 20~30 at a time. You will crash the game a lot probably but if you're lucky you can find the right address.

Timers can be a bee-ach.

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:07 pm Post subject:

Actually, there's one timer that says "Time elapsed" and the other when it's 10 seconds left, which is even more confusing :S

dharthoorn · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:13 pm Post subject:

No way to tell whether it's a decreasing or increasing timer then, depends on how it's scripted.

Trial and error I'm afraid.

Skull Kid · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:15 pm Post subject:

dharthoorn · Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:34 pm Post subject:

Skull Kid · Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:36 am Post subject:

Anyway, here's the timer when it counts down in a GIF image.

dharthoorn · Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:51 am Post subject:

There's not much extra to learn from the picture alone.

Did your float and 4b integer searches come up with anything? If not, perhaps it's a double.

Regarding your earlier question sorry I didnt read it right first time, I have never seen a counter starting negative counting UP to zero. Especially since the onscreen counter counts down thats highly unlikely. Unless meant as some sort of anti-cheat measure and even then there would be easier measures.

It is possible that the counter address changes at every new instance of the counter which means you have 40secs to find the address (and subsequenly initiate the pointer search). As I said before use speedhack or pause to slow the game down then.