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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: "Better" english Reply with quote

On an indirect question, which one could be considered "better", or is it just personal prefferences?

"They asked whether I'm okay."
or
"They asked if I'm okay"

Also, on indirekt speech, my english teacher wants anything to be set in past.

so:

They said: "It's dangerous to go out alone in the night."

"They told her it was dangerous to go out alone in the night."
It's still dangerous so I'm not sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, its not indirekt, its indirect, you almost never use k before t.

They asked if I'm okay is the proper one to use.

The last one is correct, unless im looking at it wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your quick response.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a difference in perspective that determines how the sentence should be phrased


>>They told her it was dangerous to go out alone in the night.

That sentence sounds really funny in my head... I think it should be "go out alone at night"?

"They asked whether I was okay."
whether would better suit the sentence if it was in past tense

I'm not an English grammar expert so I may be wrong Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Tell me if you're ok" -> "Tell me only if you're ok".
"Tell me whether you're ok" -> "Tell me if you're ok or not".
As a general rule, if introduces one condition, while whether introduces alternatives. If none's expressed, "or not" is implied.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XaLeX wrote:
"Tell me if you're ok" -> "Tell me only if you're ok".
"Tell me whether you're ok" -> "Tell me if you're ok or not".


^ This. Meaning, whether would be more correct when asking an individual.

As for the night one, that second edited one would seem a efficient way of narrating a past instruction.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: "Better" english Reply with quote

92Garfield wrote:
On an indirect question, which one could be considered "better", or is it just personal prefferences?

"They asked whether I'm okay."
or
"They asked if I'm okay"

Also, on indirekt speech, my english teacher wants anything to be set in past.

so:

They said: "It's dangerous to go out alone in the night."

"They told her it was dangerous to go out alone in the night."
It's still dangerous so I'm not sure.


The first part I'm not sure about. They asked whether I was okay or not. See the problem there is that they asked already, hence it's in the past tense. If they asked in the past, then they couldn't have asked if you are okay now, because that would be like me asking you if you were okay five minutes from now.

So they asked if you were okay or not. (if or whether is fine) (add or not just to clear it up)

The second part can go either way. They said it's dangerous to go out at night. They said it was dangerous to go at night.

There you have to look at the meaning. Was it dangerous to go out at night during the particular moment when they said it was? Or is it always dangerous. If latter then they said it's dangerous. If not it wasn't.

Since it's stands for it is you cant forget it means present tense, not past.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: "Better" english Reply with quote

"They asked if I was okay"

They said: "It's dangerous to go out on your own at night."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They asked whether I was okay or not. See the problem there is that they asked already, hence it's in the past tense.It's just a difference in perspective that determines how the sentence should be phrased .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They asked if I'm okay
Whether (to me at least) Implies there should be multiple choices.
They asked whether I was ok or not.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: "Better" english Reply with quote

92Garfield wrote:
On an indirect question, which one could be considered "better", or is it just personal prefferences?

"They asked whether I'm okay."
or
"They asked if I'm okay"

Also, on indirekt speech, my english teacher wants anything to be set in past.

so:

They said: "It's dangerous to go out alone in the night."

"They told her it was dangerous to go out alone in the night."
It's still dangerous so I'm not sure.

This is more formal, and thus more correct English.
This is present tense (as it's happening)
This is past tense.
TBH, I wasn't too sure what you wanted, but hopefully that might have shed a bit of light on the situation.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They told her it was dangerous to go out alone during the night
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