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Do we really need guns?
Yes
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Yes, but only in dangerous areas of the world
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No
31%
 31%  [ 7 ]
I think there should be a complete firearm ban
9%
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guns are ridiculous, anybody can point and shoot, I say we all revert to melee combat with swords and the likes, introduce some skill.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

navarone wrote:
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i can easily kill you with a kitchen knife


Ban kitchen knives then.
So much this.
I could strangle you to death. So should I be outlawed?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dialgar wrote:
iwannaflyoneday wrote:
Zelda_454 wrote:
So we are pretty much screwed. Guns will remain, they give power to the police. But also the criminals. For a gun ban to be effective, police have to disarm themselves, which takes their power away.
disarming the police will not mean disarming criminals. in some urban cities in china, police aren't allowed to have guns, but criminals still get their hands on them.
AverageAzn247 wrote:
Dialgar wrote:
Jokser wrote:
I am getting a gun soon, or well first a license. They are needed, I mean theres so much shit around the world, and I guess it depends on where you live. I'd feel better knowing that I can prevent anyone from trying anything with the ones I love.


You know having a gun can actually increase the chance of violence right?
so do video games and tv but i doubt anyone is willing to give those up.
i have no idea where you people get these ideas. they do not increase violence. people can clearly distinguish between reality and the virtual world. giving someone weapon don't mean they are going to start killing people with it. if someone already made up the mind of committing violence, he/she will execute it regardless of a gun.


I agree that there is little/no evidence that games can encourage violence but for my point that guns can increase violence - Say some one is robbing a house and they have a weapon, then the owner comes down with a gun the robber will feel threatened and there is a higher chance they will use their weapon.
this situation can be applied to a knife, no?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwannaflyoneday wrote:
Zelda_454 wrote:
So we are pretty much screwed. Guns will remain, they give power to the police. But also the criminals. For a gun ban to be effective, police have to disarm themselves, which takes their power away.
disarming the police will not mean disarming criminals. in some urban cities in china, police aren't allowed to have guns, but criminals still get their hands on them.
AverageAzn247 wrote:
Dialgar wrote:
Jokser wrote:
I am getting a gun soon, or well first a license. They are needed, I mean theres so much shit around the world, and I guess it depends on where you live. I'd feel better knowing that I can prevent anyone from trying anything with the ones I love.


You know having a gun can actually increase the chance of violence right?
so do video games and tv but i doubt anyone is willing to give those up.
i have no idea where you people get these ideas. they do not increase violence. people can clearly distinguish between reality and the virtual world. giving someone weapon don't mean they are going to start killing people with it. if someone already made up the mind of committing violence, he/she will execute it regardless of a gun.
http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-2-151.pdf
tl;dr "these reviews found that across these two research designs, exposure to violent video games is associated with higher levels of
aggressive behavior, aggressive cognition, aggressive affect, and
physiological arousal and with lower levels of prosocial behavior"

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chicago is review the 29 year gun ban law... i support it, we dont need guns to protect ourselves.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http: // www .apa. org /pubs/journ als/release s/bul-1 36-2-151. pdf
tl;dr "these reviews found that across these two research designs, exposure to violent video games is associated with higher levels of
aggressive behavior, aggressive cognition, aggressive affect, and
physiological arousal and with lower levels of prosocial behavior"

that isn't even a proper scientific research paper. it's a summary of papers which support the hypothesis of violent video games are associated with higher levels of aggressive behavior. the cited works come from repeated researchers. i have no idea if the research papers they cited are peer-reviewed or not. i'm going to remain skeptical about the creditability of the document.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iwannaflyoneday wrote:
Dialgar wrote:
iwannaflyoneday wrote:
Zelda_454 wrote:
So we are pretty much screwed. Guns will remain, they give power to the police. But also the criminals. For a gun ban to be effective, police have to disarm themselves, which takes their power away.
disarming the police will not mean disarming criminals. in some urban cities in china, police aren't allowed to have guns, but criminals still get their hands on them.
AverageAzn247 wrote:
Dialgar wrote:
Jokser wrote:
I am getting a gun soon, or well first a license. They are needed, I mean theres so much shit around the world, and I guess it depends on where you live. I'd feel better knowing that I can prevent anyone from trying anything with the ones I love.


You know having a gun can actually increase the chance of violence right?
so do video games and tv but i doubt anyone is willing to give those up.
i have no idea where you people get these ideas. they do not increase violence. people can clearly distinguish between reality and the virtual world. giving someone weapon don't mean they are going to start killing people with it. if someone already made up the mind of committing violence, he/she will execute it regardless of a gun.


I agree that there is little/no evidence that games can encourage violence but for my point that guns can increase violence - Say some one is robbing a house and they have a weapon, then the owner comes down with a gun the robber will feel threatened and there is a higher chance they will use their weapon.
this situation can be applied to a knife, no?


Well yeah, it can even be applied to fists but at least with a knife/melee weapon there is a lower chance of getting killed (I would assume so, It does less damage when it goes in and there is a much smaller area of incidence but haven't actually looked into it that much.) Its also much easier to protect yourself from a knife.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Chris Rock said it best!! We don't need gun control we need bullet control, if every bullet cost fifty thousand dollars there would be no innocent bystanders Smile
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