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Is alienware a price ripoff?

 
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Naraganeun
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:43 pm    Post subject: Is alienware a price ripoff? Reply with quote

Everyone says don't buy alienware, you're just basically buying their name... But i'm not sure... i jsut can't find anything that beats this

intel i7 extreme 3.86 Ghz 8mb cache

"alienware high-performance liquid cooling" (should i get + acosutic dampening?)

dual 1,792mb nvidia geforce gtx 295

AlienAdrenaline v1.0: Video Performance Optimizer

12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600mhz- 6 x 2048mb

intel x-58 motherboard- socket 1366

vista ultimate~64bit SP1

600GB (2 x 300GB) Velociraptor SATA 3.0Gb/s 10,000RPM 2 x 16MB Cache

Drive 1: 20X Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW) w/ LightScribe
Drive 2: Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW)

Killer Xeno Pro

HD 7.1 performance audio

30" 3008WFP dell monitor 2560 x 1600p (8ms)

Alienware TactX™ Headset

Razer Tarantula™ Keyboard

Razer Lachesis™ 4000dpi Laser Gaming Mouse - Phantom White

3-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support with Onsite Service

AlienRespawn v2.0 Recovery DVD – Windows Vista® Edition

320GB 2.5" USB 2.0 Maxtor BlackArmor™ Portable Hard Drive

D-Link® DGL-4500 Xtreme N Gaming Router

CyberPower® Intelligent LCD 1500VA GreenPower™ UPS


Razer Mako™ 2.1 300-Watt THX®-Designed Gaming Speaker System

12ft Monster Cable® Advanced High Speed Ethernet Cable

Alienware TactX™ Headset
Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware® ALX Mousepad
Alienware® ALX Desktop Binder
Owner Identification Card
Internal Wire Management
Exclusive Alienware® ALX Items

Subtotal: $8,631.00
Shipping & Handling: $222.39Estimate Tax & Shipping (WTH?)
Tax: $863.21 (WTH????????)
Order Total: $9,716.60

and possibly sign up for alienware titanium account and pay around $292 a month

i know some components sound like advertising... but i copy pasted i chose. here is the alienware alx 58x link

http://www.alienware.com/customize/alx-x58-r2-desktop.aspx?SysCode=PC-ALX-X58-R2&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT&CartId=1000

i just want to make the people say that prove it to me, but i also agree 9.7k iss kind of O_o

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should we have to prove it? It's a well known fact. Put together the same exact parts on newegg and it'll probably be $3-4k cheaper.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarr wrote:
Why should we have to prove it? It's a well known fact. Put together the same exact parts on newegg and it'll probably be $3-4k cheaper.


How do i get a tutorial on how to build it up? what case to i buy? how do i get a warranty?

i'm not ultra smart on computers man... in my point of view its a nice deal since i don't know how to make computers but if it really is idk if i can...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can probably build the equivalent for 1/4th of the price
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price from Newegg (except for the Monster Cable), including some side notes regarding performance vs. price.

Core i7 EE 975 3.33GHz - $1040 - A Core i7 920 would perform similarly
XFX GTX 295 - $530 x 2 = $1060 - Uber-high-end cards always have jacked up prices
G.Skill 6GB DDR3-1600 - $95 x 2 = $190 - 12GB is obviously overkill, a 4GB dual channel kit or 6GB triple channel kit would be more than enough
Asus P6T LGA1366 - $250
WD 1TB + Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (MLC) - $390 - SSD for fast boot-up/load times (beyond WD Velociraptor), fast 7200RPM WD 1TB for any storage you need
LG Dual-layer DVD burner + Lite-On Blu-Ray reader - $113 - Lightscribe technology does not have a very good niche
Killer Xeno Pro - $130 - What a ridiculous waste of $130
HD audio is integrated into the motherboard. I would have expected an add-on card with AlienWare though.
Asus 24" HD monitor (2ms) - $230 - Anything beyond a 24" monitor will result in ridiculous price jumps, and lower performance
steelseries Gaming Headset - $85
Logitech MX518 - $40 - I guess it's just favoritism. I'll calculate for the Razer Lachesis ($70).
Razer Tarantula - $90
Run Windows 7 RC (free)
320GB WD 2.5" 7200RPM, 16MB cache + Antec MX-25 - $82 - You need this because...
DGL-4500 - $150
CyberPower 1500VA 900W UPS - $185 - Waste of money if you don't experience outages often
Logitech Z-5500 505W 5.1 surround - $300 - Because the Razer Mako is lame for the price
Monster Cable - $40 - Bit expensive for a short ethernet cable.


$4405 total for the most expensive version, ~$1400 for a well-performing system (i7 920, HD 4890, 4GB DDR3, WD 1TB, DVD burner, removed: Killer Xeno, UPS, expensive sound system, cables, router, external HDD, SSD, BD-reader).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double GTX 295 is complitly useless.
Quad SLI have horrible preformance, its alot smarter to take 2x GTX 285.

i7 920 clocks about the same as the 965 one so that one is also useless.
6GB ram is enought for all "normal" users that doesn't render all day long.

Monstercable is just bullshit.

Also alot there is just shit and waste of money but I don't wanna waste
my time on saying all.


So a good tip is, never spend more then 1,5k-2k USD on a computer its just waste of money.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The price is only due to labor.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Majii wrote:
The price is only due to labor.

Yeah, and anyone skilled at it can build an entire system in under an hour; in fact, there was a contest held in my town a couple years back, the winner being who could assemble a system the fastest. If I recall correctly, the winner assembled the system in less than 5 minutes. $3-4k for labor and testing is outrageous.

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