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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject: What should I get? Reply with quote

Should I get C++ for dummies, they assume I know nothing and it's cheaper than most, or an e-book? And Dummies book uses dev C++ but I read it's mostly for other OSes than windows.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need to buy books for programming. You can find everything you need and want to learn for free on the internet. (Not warez, actual legit legal material.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to learn from the internet because the computer I'm gonna learn on doesn't have internet at the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a copy of C++ for Dummies on my computer. It is fine, mainly because if I come up with errors in VC++ I usually know how to fix them. I already read Learn C++ in 21 days though Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

learning basic C++ from a book is utterly wasting, you can get most information off the internet, if you really wanna buy books related to programming, try Greg Hoglund's books, they are very very useful, especially Exploiting Online Games in gaming cases.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just print out an e-book in that case?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to your library then if you don't have access to the internet at home. Or use free time in school to read up and print things out as needed. I very highly doubt the teachers in your school will get mad for you attempting to learn a serious subject during your free time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a tutorial site and just go file>save as and save all the tuts for later.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiccaan wrote:
Go to your library then if you don't have access to the internet at home. Or use free time in school to read up and print things out as needed. I very highly doubt the teachers in your school will get mad for you attempting to learn a serious subject during your free time.


It's not that kind of school. Every time the computer is restarted it erases all info that you put on the that computer. And I can't install a fucking complier.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer books over the internet, for some reasons:

* It doesn't burn your eyes (Moniter outputs radiation)
* They teach you from 0%, the internet will teach you how to make 2 programs and then they leave you in the middle of the desert, and somewhat statements and other stuff, they quiz you and don't give you assignments.
* The book have a good smell (Optional)
* The book is portable, you can take a bath while reading, you can take it to the restroom and shit while reading, you can take it to school, you can brush your teeth while reading (Optional, will disturb you)
* It is very comfortable sometimes
* It doesn't kill brain cells...
* It will like you..
* You will feel tiny orgasm (lol jk)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rot1 wrote:
* It doesn't burn your eyes (Moniter outputs radiation)


Last I checked, people don't use microwaves for monitors.. The radiation level output from a monitor is extremely low and unless you have your eye touching the screen, you will not be exposed to it almost at all your entire life. You have more of a chance of straining your eyes reading a book then you do a computer screen.

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* They teach you from 0%, the internet will teach you how to make 2 programs and then they leave you in the middle of the desert, and somewhat statements and other stuff, they quiz you and don't give you assignments.


Thats why people that copy and paste code don't learn. You expect to just copy paste the code from the given website and learn it just from that. If you use the site like a book, read, and actually follow it and type things out yourself, you learn faster and understand more. There are plenty of sites that cover those 'in between' things that you think are not there. Just because one site doesn't have it doesn't mean the rest of the internet doesn't.

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* The book is portable, you can take a bath while reading, you can take it to the restroom and shit while reading, you can take it to school, you can brush your teeth while reading (Optional, will disturb you)


You can do all that with a laptop, PDA, or other types of hand-held computers.

Rot1 wrote:
* The book have a good smell (Optional)
* It is very comfortable sometimes
* It doesn't kill brain cells...
* It will like you..
* You will feel tiny orgasm (lol jk)


Yea.. no comment to these as they are just inutile.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiccaan wrote:
Rot1 wrote:
* It doesn't burn your eyes (Moniter outputs radiation)


Last I checked, people don't use microwaves for monitors.. The radiation level output from a monitor is extremely low and unless you have your eye touching the screen, you will not be exposed to it almost at all your entire life. You have more of a chance of straining your eyes reading a book then you do a computer screen.

Rot1 wrote:
* They teach you from 0%, the internet will teach you how to make 2 programs and then they leave you in the middle of the desert, and somewhat statements and other stuff, they quiz you and don't give you assignments.


Thats why people that copy and paste code don't learn. You expect to just copy paste the code from the given website and learn it just from that. If you use the site like a book, read, and actually follow it and type things out yourself, you learn faster and understand more. There are plenty of sites that cover those 'in between' things that you think are not there. Just because one site doesn't have it doesn't mean the rest of the internet doesn't.

Rot1 wrote:
* The book is portable, you can take a bath while reading, you can take it to the restroom and shit while reading, you can take it to school, you can brush your teeth while reading (Optional, will disturb you)


You can do all that with a laptop, PDA, or other types of hand-held computers.

Rot1 wrote:
* The book have a good smell (Optional)
* It is very comfortable sometimes
* It doesn't kill brain cells...
* It will like you..
* You will feel tiny orgasm (lol jk)


Yea.. no comment to these as they are just inutile.


I have not seen a lot of people use PDA for such thing, and for laptop, it will not be comfortable to lay it on your knees while taking a shit, heavy and when the shit drops it might flow some water on the laptop (ew..)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, I just went searching for that cheating in online games ebook on warez-bb. I see you're looking for it on there too, Rot1. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typhoon808 wrote:
Haha, I just went searching for that cheating in online games ebook on warez-bb. I see you're looking for it on there too, Rot1. Razz


Hell yeah ;]
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rot1 wrote:
Typhoon808 wrote:
Haha, I just went searching for that cheating in online games ebook on warez-bb. I see you're looking for it on there too, Rot1. :P


Hell yeah ;]


I bought it at Barnes n Nobles for like $10. .__.,

Do you really need to find a warez for it?

Anyways, if you're curious on the contents, here's the ToC:

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Why Games?
Game Hacking 101
Money
Enter the Lawyers
Infested with Bugs
Hacking Game Clients
Building a Bot
Reversing
Advanced Game Hacking Fu
Software Security Uber Alles


I've actually learned a good deal from this, but it's mostly just WoW shit.

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Rot1 wrote:

I have not seen a lot of people use PDA for such thing, and for laptop, it will not be comfortable to lay it on your knees while taking a shit, heavy and when the shit drops it might flow some water on the laptop (ew..)


Who takes a shit while reading a C++ book?

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