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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Chicken or the egg? Reply with quote

"which came first, the chicken or the egg?"

Chickens hatch from eggs, but eggs are laid by chickens, making it difficult to say which originally gave rise to the other.
If there has been a first man he must have been born without father or mother -- which is repugnant to nature. For there could not have been a first egg to give a beginning to birds, or there should have been a first bird which gave a beginning to eggs; for a bird comes from an egg." The same he held good for all species, believing, with Plato, that everything before it appeared on earth had first its being in spirit.

If the egg is not necessarily of any specific type:

Then it could be said that the egg came first, because other animals had been laying eggs long before chickens existed, such as the dinosaurs. In biology, egg is used as a general term in this way.


If only an egg that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg:

Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: Some animal other than a chicken laid the first chicken egg which contained the first chicken. In this case the chicken egg came before the chicken. In reality, many scientific theories suggest that this would not have been a simple event. For example, the theory of Punctuated equilibrium theorizes that the actual speciation of an organism from its ancestral species is usually the result of many mutations combined with new geographical surroundings, called Cladogenesis.


If only an egg laid by a chicken can be considered a chicken egg:

Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: The first chicken (which hatched from a non-chicken egg) laid the first chicken egg. In this case the chicken came before the chicken egg. Again, this would not necessarily be a straightforward event.

If only an egg that is laid by a chicken and that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg:

Then the first chicken came from a different type of egg (not a chicken egg) and laid the first chicken egg. In this case eggs (in general) came first, the chicken came after, and the chicken egg came last.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me of course.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My scientific opinion>>>

Egg, without the egg there would be no chicken. You can say that without a chicken there can be no eggs, but the egg could have been 'genetically' fucked up from a snake egg or something.

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Then it could be said that the egg came first, because other animals had been laying eggs long before chickens existed, such as the dinosaurs. In biology, egg is used as a general term in this way.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jews did it.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the egg because chickens had to evolve from some thing such as dinosaurs. as we know dinosaurs evolved so they had feathers, so that means a dinosaur eventually evolved into a bird like creature, it then shit out an egg which had a chicken inside. So the chicken hatched from the ancient bird egg.......
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a manner of avoiding the question or joking, it can be said that "the chicken" came first—in the structure of the question, simply because the words "the chicken" are said before the words "the egg" when the question is asked. In a question that is phrased differently, the answer would be different. Similarly, Randy Garner jokingly refers to an encyclopedic solution
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are talking about chicken not super chicken or super eggs, they are to super.
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MiStErDoRkIe wrote:
My scientific opinion>>>

Egg, without the egg there would be no chicken. You can say that without a chicken there can be no eggs, but the egg could have been 'genetically' fucked up from a snake egg or something.

Religious opinions by others.
God did it.


i did what? Exclamation

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