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OSIRIS
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Visual Basic 2008

The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
mageknight wrote:
Visual Basic 2008

The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.


Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BasketCase wrote:
mageknight wrote:
Visual Basic 2008

The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.


Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well.


Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
AndrewMan wrote:
BasketCase wrote:
mageknight wrote:
Visual Basic 2008

The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.


Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well.


Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all.


haha yeah
Im looking at the tutorial, and Im just going to look for a class.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
BasketCase wrote:
AndrewMan wrote:
BasketCase wrote:
mageknight wrote:
Visual Basic 2008

The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.


Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well.


Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all.


haha yeah
Im looking at the tutorial, and Im just going to look for a class.


Visual Basic is nice and easy.

Code:

Msgbox("Hello")


Now you have a message box saying hello. Shocked its very easy
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.

C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.

Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
Code:

MsgBox("Hello World")


In C++ it is this:

Code:
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>

int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
   std::cout << "Hello World!";
   std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
   getch();
   return 0;
}



Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time... Rolling Eyes


This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.

MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK);

Also, the idea of learning a programming language isn't learning every single function... that is why MSDN exists.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyone know a good link to a Visual Basic 2008 tutorial though? I googled it and am getting absolute shit
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
slovach wrote:
AndrewMan wrote:
I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.

C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.

Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
Code:

MsgBox("Hello World")


In C++ it is this:

Code:
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>

int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
   std::cout << "Hello World!";
   std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
   getch();
   return 0;
}



Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time... Rolling Eyes


This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.

MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK);


Than XenoPhobe is wrong because I got it from him.
I don't know anything about C++ yet. In the summer i'll start learning it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Anyone know a good link to a Visual Basic 2008 tutorial though? I googled it and am getting absolute shit


If you want to learn a language like that, learn C# instead, it's on the .NET framework all the same, yet also has an absolutely enormous amount of support.

I'm still recommending C though, so you don't end up shitting your pants later when you hit some concepts.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[url]http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/NET/nets1p1.html[/url]
Best VB tutorial ever. Just be sure to read everything
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
1. man C++ is too much for my report without even a single mark over 8
but i didnt have insufficients and only like 3 otha ppl had no incufficients too.

2. WOW STOP THE QUOTE CHAIN

3. i should have learned C++ Crying or Very sad
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http://forum.cheatengine.org/viewtopic.php?t=178609
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
AndrewMan wrote:
slovach wrote:
AndrewMan wrote:
I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.

C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.

Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
Code:

MsgBox("Hello World")


In C++ it is this:

Code:
#include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>

int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
   std::cout << "Hello World!";
   std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
   getch();
   return 0;
}



Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time... Rolling Eyes


This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.

MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK);


Than XenoPhobe is wrong because I got it from him.
I don't know anything about C++ yet. In the summer i'll start learning it.

I didn't tell you that was a messagebox. Razz
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can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.

so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You were talking about how nothing makes sense in C++ like cout

C output

cin stands for

C input

Most of the apis are explanatory just from the name.
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C++ isn't hard. Most of you just started with "easy" languages like VB. For example, you type in Msgbox("Hello") but you don't know what actually happens. In C++, you use MessageBox(NULL, LPCSTR("Hello"), LPCSTR("Hello World"), MB_ICONINFORMATION). It's the same thing really, just VB(Microsoft) makes everything easier by giving you less to deal with.

This is why making a GUI in C++ is so hard. VB and Delphi and other languages have what are called prologues and epilogues. The WinProc are already coded for creating windows. In C++, you need to write your own WinProc procedure and the handlers for all of the messages.
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