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OSIRIS Grandmaster Cheater
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Visual Basic 2008
The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week.
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BasketCase Newbie cheater
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| mageknight wrote: | Visual Basic 2008
The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week. |
Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well.
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AndrewMan Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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| BasketCase wrote: | | mageknight wrote: | Visual Basic 2008
The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week. |
Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well. |
Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all.
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BasketCase Newbie cheater
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| AndrewMan wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | mageknight wrote: | Visual Basic 2008
The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week. |
Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well. |
Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all. |
haha yeah
Im looking at the tutorial, and Im just going to look for a class.
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OSIRIS Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| BasketCase wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | | BasketCase wrote: | | mageknight wrote: | Visual Basic 2008
The simplest language ever. Anyone can learn it in under a week. |
Im looking for something that also has wide application use as well. |
Good luck with C++. You gotta have a bunch of freetime to memorize it all. |
haha yeah
Im looking at the tutorial, and Im just going to look for a class. |
Visual Basic is nice and easy.
Now you have a message box saying hello. its very easy
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hcavolsdsadgadsg I'm a spammer
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| AndrewMan wrote: | I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.
C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.
Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
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MsgBox("Hello World") |
In C++ it is this:
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
}
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Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time...  |
This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.
MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK);
Also, the idea of learning a programming language isn't learning every single function... that is why MSDN exists.
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BasketCase Newbie cheater
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone know a good link to a Visual Basic 2008 tutorial though? I googled it and am getting absolute shit
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AndrewMan Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| slovach wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.
C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.
Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
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MsgBox("Hello World") |
In C++ it is this:
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
}
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Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time...  |
This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.
MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK); |
Than XenoPhobe is wrong because I got it from him.
I don't know anything about C++ yet. In the summer i'll start learning it.
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hcavolsdsadgadsg I'm a spammer
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| BasketCase wrote: | | Anyone know a good link to a Visual Basic 2008 tutorial though? I googled it and am getting absolute shit |
If you want to learn a language like that, learn C# instead, it's on the .NET framework all the same, yet also has an absolutely enormous amount of support.
I'm still recommending C though, so you don't end up shitting your pants later when you hit some concepts.
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OSIRIS Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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[url]http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/NET/nets1p1.html[/url]
Best VB tutorial ever. Just be sure to read everything
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Pseudo Xero I post too much
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| AndrewMan wrote: | | slovach wrote: | | AndrewMan wrote: | I do regret starting to learn VB, but in some ways its good. Good for trainers, good for making simple applications, and easy to understand.
C++, on the otherhand, requires you actually to memorize. VB is sort of like writing a book. C++ is actually "LEARNING another language". Requires you to memorize, and will take a while.
Example:
To say "hello world" in Visual Basic its this:
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MsgBox("Hello World") |
In C++ it is this:
| Code: | #include "stdafx.h"
#include <iostream>
#include <conio.h>
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
std::cout << "Hello World!";
std::cout << "Press any key to exit... ";
getch();
return 0;
}
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Of course I know shit about C++, and wont learn till the summer when I get more time...  |
This is wrong.
cout is not a MessageBox. A MessageBox is a MessageBox.
MessageBox(NULL, "Hi I'm a message.", "hi!", MB_OK); |
Than XenoPhobe is wrong because I got it from him.
I don't know anything about C++ yet. In the summer i'll start learning it. |
I didn't tell you that was a messagebox.
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| haxory' wrote: | can't VB do anything??
windows is programmed using VB right? correct me if im wrong.
so all things in windows you have like the start menu is a windows form too. |
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HomerSexual Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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You were talking about how nothing makes sense in C++ like cout
C output
cin stands for
C input
Most of the apis are explanatory just from the name.
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rapion124 Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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C++ isn't hard. Most of you just started with "easy" languages like VB. For example, you type in Msgbox("Hello") but you don't know what actually happens. In C++, you use MessageBox(NULL, LPCSTR("Hello"), LPCSTR("Hello World"), MB_ICONINFORMATION). It's the same thing really, just VB(Microsoft) makes everything easier by giving you less to deal with.
This is why making a GUI in C++ is so hard. VB and Delphi and other languages have what are called prologues and epilogues. The WinProc are already coded for creating windows. In C++, you need to write your own WinProc procedure and the handlers for all of the messages.
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