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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: can u go to jail for hacking? Reply with quote

can u?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with CE you cant but if you break into another PC that could get you to jail. But I think it is very difficult to be catched if you dont hack important websites or servers.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ok because little noobs on another site are saying i can go to jail for hacking club penguin
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hacking is breaking into anothers pc, that is illegal.
With CE you only change info on your pc, even if it is an online game like club penguin. Dont worry about that "you go to the jail" stuff while you use CE.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hacking with CE is only editing the memory on your system, which the company of the game you are hacking does not own. They have no legal say in what you do the memory on your system. Blizzard has tried to sue someone for making a trainer (I think it was for one of the old Warcraft games) but lost the court case because the judge ruled the company did not own the memory on the kids machine.

Server side hacking however is illegal. Theres different levels of what you can do legally with hacking online games. But when packets come into play you can get yourself into trouble depending on how far in depth you go.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: interesting Reply with quote

interesting...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiccaan wrote:
Hacking with CE is only editing the memory on your system, which the company of the game you are hacking does not own. They have no legal say in what you do the memory on your system. Blizzard has tried to sue someone for making a trainer (I think it was for one of the old Warcraft games) but lost the court case because the judge ruled the company did not own the memory on the kids machine.

Server side hacking however is illegal. Theres different levels of what you can do legally with hacking online games. But when packets come into play you can get yourself into trouble depending on how far in depth you go.

Pretty much sums it up. Good story too Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are indirectly editing packets at times with CE though. The memory you change is read then a packet from your client sent to the server so you are indirectly packet editing ? If the server authenticates the packets it received as valid and it acts based on those then did you not just make a server-sided hack ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that hacking is accessing another pc bypassing the main server, that would allow you to upload and download stuff. I dont know how to do that nor how it works but I think its like that.
So when you use WPE its not illegal because the info you send is requested and processed by a server that was made for that. If you use packets to bypass the server then I would name that hacking.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So pretty much as long as i just use CE i woulnt go to jail Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
You are indirectly editing packets at times with CE though. The memory you change is read then a packet from your client sent to the server so you are indirectly packet editing ? If the server authenticates the packets it received as valid and it acts based on those then did you not just make a server-sided hack ?


I guess you could call it indirectly editing the packet, but the memory on your machine is yours and free for you to edit and such at your own will.

wofo wrote:
I think that hacking is accessing another pc bypassing the main server, that would allow you to upload and download stuff. I dont know how to do that nor how it works but I think its like that.
So when you use WPE its not illegal because the info you send is requested and processed by a server that was made for that. If you use packets to bypass the server then I would name that hacking.

Loved the story of Blizzard. Razz.


Actually, sending packets to a game server that are not sent out by the client originally can be taken as illegal. Beings that the client wasn't the one that sent the packet, it can be considered a hack attempt directly to the server which you don't own. Even if the packet is the same info the client sends, it can be harmful to the server when not sent by the correct client.

As for hacking into another system, thats straight forward and illegal.

And Blizzard sues anyone they can, as I said in another topic about this, I think Blizzard gets off to sueing children.. (they are cyber pedophiles Surprised).

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Server Sided Games are UNHACKABLE Reply with quote

HACKING, is using a certain program to get inside the other users Computer without thier knowledge and casuing a certain amount of damage to the pc, it can range from sending virusus to using credit card information. Hacking GAMES is not ILLEGAL if its not SERVER SIDED. Server Sided games are UNHACKABLE *like Runescape*, ANY game that needs REAL MONEY to play, and u try to hack it, You CAN go to jail.

*note: HACKING RUNESCAPE IS NOT AUTOFIGHTERS,AUTOCUTTERS, ETC!!!* These are just bots to help you level up in the game.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Server Sided Games are UNHACKABLE Reply with quote

xxRedwolfxx wrote:
[color=white]HACKING, is using a certain program to get inside the other users Computer without thier knowledge and casuing a certain amount of damage to the pc, it can range from sending virusus to using credit card information.


Hacking is a term that can be used for a verity of different things. It is not singled to intruding into another system.

xxRedwolfxx wrote:
Hacking GAMES is not ILLEGAL if its not SERVER SIDED. Server Sided games are UNHACKABLE *like Runescape*, ANY game that needs REAL MONEY to play, and u try to hack it, You CAN go to jail.


Not all 'server-sided' games are unhackable. Hacking a game that you don't pay for can have the same consequences as any that you do have to pay to play as well.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how your hacking. Hacking games like RuneScape and other server-sided games can get you to jail. If you use a trainer to hack Club Penguin, your fine. If someone sues you for using a trainer, you'll win the case since your only changing your system's memory. If you HACK someone else like damaging their computer or getting their credit card info or personal info, pack ur stuff. Your going ta jail, buddy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CE only edits what is being transmitted TO your pc not what is being sent.
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