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Google blocking cheat engine forum coz it's harmful
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akimikage
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:12 am    Post subject: Google blocking cheat engine forum coz it's harmful Reply with quote

I don't know if there's an announcement already but google chrome is blocking my access to the forums telling me that it's harmful. Firefox doesn't seem to do it though
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheat engine doesn't show in google search also. This is funny, they block a useful and perfectly safe site that even published its source code, yet they allow these shit**y trainer sites which are full of viruses and other crap.

Firefox and Bing search work fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting the warning, too. Here's the report that shows what Google says is the problem.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the report. The problem is not the forum or cheatengine site, the problem is that some users posting malware/links (mostly in the signiture) which is not allowed by google.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's bitching about the cheat engine download.

Anyhow,
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In the top-right corner of the browser window, click the Chrome menu
Select Settings.
Click Show advanced settings.
Under "Privacy," uncheck Enable phishing and malware protection.


also, according to the webmaster tools this is what is detected on forum.cheatengine.org (which hasn't any ce download)



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emmanuel_2014 wrote:
Cheat engine doesn't show in google search also. This is funny, they block a useful and perfectly safe site that even published its source code, yet they allow these shit**y trainer sites which are full of viruses and other crap.

Firefox and Bing search work fine.


It shows up fine, google doesn't remove sites from searches anyway even if they contain malware for a good period of time, just show a warning. I don't know which trainer sites you are referring to but the sites with malware i have found have them hidden behind surveys and Google has no way to access the content behind those surveys.

Just ignore the warning, chrome's phishing protection is a joke anyway. Used to block trainers once or software that wasn't popular. Google should just search, thats what they are best at.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have noticed just now that if you are trying to use google translator on the forum, you get the same shit warning (regardless of browser).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STN wrote:
Just ignore the warning, chrome's phishing protection is a joke anyway. Used to block trainers once or software that wasn't popular. Google should just search, thats what they are best at.


The problem is that Google is deterring other people who aren't familiar with CE or its community, from following-through to the site. The fact of the matter is that Google is damaging the CE brand and community by showing that gaudy red page when someone tries to visit.

Unfortunately, Dark Byte is going to have to deal with the headache of getting Google to remove that. The quickest solution for the time being is to disable signatures and remove them from all posts (and make sure they can't still be crawled to somehow). That, or perhaps comb through the user db looking for the URLs Google has referenced in the report and delete them, as they may be in post replies instead of signatures.

It's a pain in the butt, but personal opinions of Google aside, ignoring this warning is going to do far more damage to the community than it's worth. And if CE is still a significant source of income for Dark Byte, then that's all the more reason to handle it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could move to http://forum.cheatengine.software which apparently is clean
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
We could move to http://forum.cheatengine.software which apparently is clean


It also happens when just trying to hit cheatengine.org, so you'd have to redirect the entire domain to .software if you wanted to do that; however, if the offending links are still on the site even after the forward/redirect, then Google will just keep hitting you for the same offense.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I doubt that moving the site would solve anything. Maybe you just need to pay x amount to get "verified", as it happens with some AVs too. Gotta love those blackmailing schemes from the AV mafia.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as i said, it's the cheatengine download they have issues with
the forum is hit because it's a subdomain

right now i'm talking with the advertiser company, and leaving messages at the brick wall that is google. (and they don't reply back)
more can't be done, and it's up to the personal feeling of one google employee if he likes ce or not (i bet i have to remove all cheat engine downloads till they're happy)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like they removed the site from the blacklist!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you sure it's not just the forum? There's still red flags for the download mirrors, which means that next week google can blacklist all subdomains again
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
you sure it's not just the forum? There's still red flags for the download mirrors, which means that next week google can blacklist all subdomains again


Ah, yeah, the download on the main page still redirects to the malware warning, but just coming to the site in a new tab works fine now--home page and forum alike.

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