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AhMunRa · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: AT&T To Start Capping Bandwidth

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/atandt-will-cap-dsl-u-verse-internet-and-impose-overage-fees/

Has an article on AT&T's new broadband cap. Glad I'm not with them.

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

Seriously why are the ISPs in the USA like crap? Here you can get 80 Mbit without limitations for less than $20/month and this country is some backwater swamp in the middle of nowhere.

ipivb · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:33 am Post subject:

Comcast is worse though. If you go over the 250GB limit too many times, they cancel your service and you'll have to sign up for business class. If you download at maximum speed for any length of time, your speed gets throttled. At least AT&T will just charge you more and not cancel your service.
Honestly, there's few reasons to use so much bandwidth. Even if you consider pirating movies to be a "legitimate reason", it's unfathomable to need so much content. To hit 250GB a month, you would have to watch about 3-5 HD movies per day.

So they probably don't have much of a choice. About 8 TB of data is transferred on the internet every second. Seven years ago, it was only 400 GB per second.
Internet usage is growing incredibly fast, seemingly with no end in sight

Obviously HD movies and huge PC games are taking a good percentage of bandwidth.
But Netflix accounts for over 20% of peak traffic. Even youtube is negligible compared to this.

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AhMunRa · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject:

ipivb, keep in mind the average download size of a netflix movie is around 1.8 gigs. So in a house with more than 1 networked device, computer, or multiple computers, XBox, PS3 that adds up quick. This isn't counting general surfing, downloading and playing of games.

InternetIsSeriousBusiness · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject:

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 111 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5636

Funny that they have integrated the technology into Sandy Bridge to transfer movies with awesome quality etc and who has the connection to watch them? Because it seems that most people in the USA is using some limited connection. It is really pathetic that even some 3rd world countries have the same quality in connection. They just refuse to spend on maintaining and developing their networks and that's the result. Here we have some companies that are investing into their business and surprise surprise, they have success. High quality, cheap prices, huge income. I love it, seriously.

ipivb · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject:

^ I don't mean to argue but upgrading the networks is a huge order. Most of the USA is not even worth upgrading.
Comcast already has 50 mbps plan available. That's 7 MBps... most servers do not even upload that fast, meaning pages wont really load any quicker than they will with a basic 12 mbps plan.

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AhMunRa · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:31 pm Post subject:

Yes but notice now that more sites are streaming media like that the greedy telcos come up with bandwidth caps.

@Geri, in studies the US is not even in the top 3 as far as speeds go. We are damn near trailing.

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject:

i decided cable could suck my dick so i got fiber and it's massively cheaper (for now) so... my previous isp didn't cap either, and verizon has none either. i'm near NY so excluding some tiny fiber providers, i'll probably always have access to the fastest stuff in the country.

i pay for 25/25 and get this

tv uses bandwidth, in my case it's all coming to the house off fiber which terminates at the ONT literally stuck to the wall and ends up as coaxial indoors. it's all managed to ensure that i always have enough bandwidth coming in so that the TV will never impact my provisioned speed.

but yes, the US pitiful internet wise. fairly competitive where i am, but not so lucky elsewhere.

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SF · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject:

While Road Runner isn't the cheapest, or have even decent speeds, they've yet to complain about the amount of BW I use. I pay $40 USD a month for 800KB/s down and 60KB/s up.

AhMunRa · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject:

Verizon is a major telco, I don't think they can cap anyone. It's usually the smaller co's that you hear caps on, this is why AT&T's announcement surprised me.

ipivb · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:47 am Post subject:

Comcast has used fiber optic for the last 8 years now. It's just the last mile that is regular cable, and that's an expensive problem to fix. About $300-$2000+ per home. Average that out and do the math and you get a very rough estimate of about $70 billion for a full upgrade of the USA... that number could be lower, or way higher. With comcast's current financial situation, it could take 17 years for them to even break even with that expensive of an upgrade.

That's what I said it's impractical for the USA. Maybe not other countries, which are much smaller. For those praising high speed internet in other countries... you have to realize, they have to travel through the undersea cables to reach USA servers. Those cables have limited bandwidth and are also extremely expensive to upgrade.
What might be more practical for the USA is to upgrade the cell phone towers to super high speed. We may not need cables anymore... doesn't LTE have a theoretical bandwidth of like 350mbps or something crazy like that?