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How to Trojans work anyways?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: How to Trojans work anyways? Reply with quote

well i recently had one on my computer and was messing around with it in the quarentin and i started to wonder, exactly how do they work anyways?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wikipedia is awesome.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xenophobe wrote:
Wikipedia is awesome.


oh XD sorry.

so would it be against the rules to ask how they are made? XD
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really, it's pretty public knowledge on how they are made / work. There are tons of sites that contain source codes to old virii and trojans and so on.

There are tons of different methods and ways to go about making a trojan, keeping it hidden, unknown to the computers owner, and so on. The more commonly seen things today are rootkits as they are harder to detect and remove.

Old style trojans on the other hand were nothing more then a process that ran a segment of code to harm the system. Nowadays, virii and trojans go to more extremes to damage the system overtime and to create methods to spread itself as fast as possible.

As for how they are made, theres no one set way that people use to make them. Just like any program you make, you start out with the barebones of the project, work your way up on the code you wish to be added, then work on making your code secure and hidden from being detected by virus scanners and so on.

Don't post any malicious content on these forums though, you will be banned.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not really, it's pretty public knowledge on how they are made / work. There are tons of sites that contain source codes to old virii and trojans and so on.

There are tons of different methods and ways to go about making a trojan, keeping it hidden, unknown to the computers owner, and so on. The more commonly seen things today are rootkits as they are harder to detect and remove.

Old style trojans on the other hand were nothing more then a process that ran a segment of code to harm the system. Nowadays, virii and trojans go to more extremes to damage the system overtime and to create methods to spread itself as fast as possible.

As for how they are made, theres no one set way that people use to make them. Just like any program you make, you start out with the barebones of the project, work your way up on the code you wish to be added, then work on making your code secure and hidden from being detected by virus scanners and so on.

Don't post any malicious content on these forums though, you will be banned.


wow, thx

could you possibly link me to a guide or two on making a trojan that would either allow me to access a computer remotely or B, more or less a keylogger?

(btw, im trying to sound as unnooblike as possible, i simply am now obsessed with the idea of being able to create the above)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eh, I'd rather not show you how to make something the world doesn't need more of.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Eh, I'd rather not show you how to make something the world doesn't need more of.


=\ yea i see your point.

so ill just have to find them myself then, i wanted to know for only good purposes anyways (in case you were wondering)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no good point to a trojan. And for you saying that you want it for good intentions means nothing to me. I can't trust you simply be you saying you wont use something for harmful reasons. This is the internet, I don't give people the time of day by saying things like that, sorry.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is no good point to a trojan. And for you saying that you want it for good intentions means nothing to me. I can't trust you simply be you saying you wont use something for harmful reasons. This is the internet, I don't give people the time of day by saying things like that, sorry.


woah, i meant "Okay then, thx for helping me, its okay if you don't want to tell me" i was still trying to ask. and by good i meant i want to know simply to know (im like that) but it doesn't matter cause i know you wont tell me anything useful for it and i frankly dont mind, and now this topic is more or less dead.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, today viruses are almost dead (or any other mal) since Kaspersky AV came out, nothing can touch you.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaspersky wrote:
To be honest, today viruses are almost dead (or any other mal) since Kaspersky AV came out, nothing can touch you.


there'll always be a way...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i prefer macafee

but anyways heres what advanced trojans do

Have a specific task, maybe opening porn on your computer and messaging everyone on aim with the virus link.

Then they infect other programs. This way, if you want to get rid of them, you have to delete the program/file.

The most advanced ones have the ability to change code to remain undetected.

Some trojans are designed to infect massive amounts of people in short time. Like the one that infected 400,000 computers in 15 minutes. But these are easily detected by cyber police.

Others are made to be slow, but have code changing ability. These often remain dormant until a specific time. I think there was 1 that went on for 2 years infecting millions and morphing to remain undetected then on new years it went off and crashed alot of servers.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blankrider wrote:
i prefer macafee

but anyways heres what advanced trojans do

Have a specific task, maybe opening porn on your computer and messaging everyone on aim with the virus link.

Then they infect other programs. This way, if you want to get rid of them, you have to delete the program/file.

The most advanced ones have the ability to change code to remain undetected.

Some trojans are designed to infect massive amounts of people in short time. Like the one that infected 400,000 computers in 15 minutes. But these are easily detected by cyber police.

Others are made to be slow, but have code changing ability. These often remain dormant until a specific time. I think there was 1 that went on for 2 years infecting millions and morphing to remain undetected then on new years it went off and crashed alot of servers.


well my goal is to create a a nonspreading torjan which i would put on my own other computers (simply cause now im obsessed with the idea.)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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blankrider wrote:
i prefer macafee

but anyways heres what advanced trojans do

Have a specific task, maybe opening porn on your computer and messaging everyone on aim with the virus link.

Then they infect other programs. This way, if you want to get rid of them, you have to delete the program/file.

The most advanced ones have the ability to change code to remain undetected.

Some trojans are designed to infect massive amounts of people in short time. Like the one that infected 400,000 computers in 15 minutes. But these are easily detected by cyber police.

Others are made to be slow, but have code changing ability. These often remain dormant until a specific time. I think there was 1 that went on for 2 years infecting millions and morphing to remain undetected then on new years it went off and crashed alot of servers.


well my goal is to create a a nonspreading torjan which i would put on my own other computers (simply cause now im obsessed with the idea.)


Well, i have a few ways to make NON-spreading viruses/trojans and malware. But it all depends on what kind your going to make..
How destructive.. And if the attackie has virus protection or not..
I'd pm you how, but i can't, because im a noob Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF7 Sephiroth wrote:
The Number 42 wrote:
blankrider wrote:
i prefer macafee

but anyways heres what advanced trojans do

Have a specific task, maybe opening porn on your computer and messaging everyone on aim with the virus link.

Then they infect other programs. This way, if you want to get rid of them, you have to delete the program/file.

The most advanced ones have the ability to change code to remain undetected.

Some trojans are designed to infect massive amounts of people in short time. Like the one that infected 400,000 computers in 15 minutes. But these are easily detected by cyber police.

Others are made to be slow, but have code changing ability. These often remain dormant until a specific time. I think there was 1 that went on for 2 years infecting millions and morphing to remain undetected then on new years it went off and crashed alot of servers.


well my goal is to create a a nonspreading torjan which i would put on my own other computers (simply cause now im obsessed with the idea.)


Well, i have a few ways to make NON-spreading viruses/trojans and malware. But it all depends on what kind your going to make..
How destructive.. And if the attackie has virus protection or not..
I'd pm you how, but i can't, because im a noob Cool

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nonagressive, i want to put in (by myself) on the comp, and then be able to access that comp remotely.

that or a keylogger that is not detected (preferably works on macs and pcs)
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