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dennis91 · Last edited by dennis91 on Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

While seeing people compare VB / C# / C++ / Delphi / Java, some mentioned that some of these programming languages were more limited than others.

They did not bother to elaborate. Just what are the limitations of VB / C# / C++ / Delphi / Java?

I thought that the only limiting factor is how proficient the user is in the language, rather than the language itself.

Is it true that certain programming languages lack the abilities of others? Or will we eventually be able to achieve as much regardless of what language we learn, as long as we learn them well.

If they do have limitations, can anyone provide examples of such limitations of the various programming languages?

goldengold · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject:

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Sean1337 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject:

- Java is slow, mainly used to make games and webpages.
- C# is basically one step up from java, if your extremely fluent in java, it should take you an hour to get the basics of c#
- c++ is one step up from c#
- c is basically one of the original languages, not too sure if its similar to c# or c++
- delphi I have no clue about
- visual basic is just a noob friendly language, it's very close to english in terms of how the code is written, I believe its slower than c++ and not as powerful. It is really easy to learn.

c++, c# and java are all object oriented languages, id say the speed of each languages increases from java --> c# --> c++

Don't really know much about c or delphi.

compactwater · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:31 am Post subject:

Delphi == Pascal == Win.

Easy, not limited.

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:36 am Post subject:

Visual Basic was made so people with no real experience could quickly pick it up and start throwing up applications.

C# was the attempt at being the "Java killer".

dennis91 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:04 am Post subject:

No guys, no.

The speed at which you can program with a language, is not a limitation. So what if you are slow, eventually you get things done still.

It doesn't limit how far you can go with the language, the type of programs etc you can make with it.

Since, the so called 'limitation' is actually just the nature of the language, I presume that the various languages have no limitation, in the sense that all of them can program the same things and that none can do what another can't do?

appalsap · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:14 am Post subject:

dennis91 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:23 am Post subject:

hcavolsdsadgadsg · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:00 am Post subject:

DeltaFlyer · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:

Robin4286 · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 19

Java is a great language, and everyone exaggerates how slow it is.

Yeah, its still pretty slow in many cases, and it can't directly use pointers, but its general all purposeness is a plus.

Pros of languages:

Java: can be used in many situations, can be used to easily write programs that execute in browsers(applets), can run on cell phones, all computers, large amounts of documentation on the subject, new APIs constantly being released (I know the most about java needless to say), Learn java well and you basically know c# as well. Object Oriented. Java recently has become open source, so it can be more easily tailored to peoples specific needs.

C#: Mimics java’s all purpose ness by running on anything Microsoft. It can be used to program xbox-360s, and can be used to easily edit most of Microsoft’s standard programs (i.e. messenger). Faster than java, able to access pointers more directly, fair amount of documentation, newer, supports Microsoft’s .net framework. Learn C# well and you basically know java. Object oriented.

C++: One of the most commonly used languages in programs today. Faster than c#, and is one of the fastest languages around. Direct access to pointers, now supports .net framework, very active community, tons of documentation, while knowing it well may not basically teach you java or c#, almost all modern day languages are based off of it. Object oriented. Inline ASM gives it zero limitations, if you know ASM.

*not that speed is not the only factor in languages, and it is not so big a difference between them as everyone seems to think.

cons:

Java: a bit slow. It does not have much compatibility with any of Microsoft’s languages or programs. No direct access to pointers. No Activex integration. Bad for hacking due to lack of integration with Microsoft’s programs, and its lack of direct access to pointers.

C#: Cannot be run on all machines the way java does, slower than c++. Essentially Microsoft’s clone of java, as can be seen just by comparing two codes. Most recent language, meaning it is the least likely to just be dropped or outdated as so many languages are.

C++: Very little safety measures(though for some this could be put in as a pro) can not be run on all machines like java, most complicated/hardest to learn of these 3 languages(IMHO of course)

appalsap · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject:

Robin4286 · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 19

appalsap · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject:

"installed" means what? a typical program installation is moving files to the %programfiles% directory and perhaps writing a few registry keys.

Sean1337 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject:

I guess I could add as well that I have not found a way to apply java to game hacking at all.

I don't think you can attach java programs to other programs and consequently I don't think you can modify other programs with java programs.

I know java mostly for it's game making capability and it's use in web browsers.

I took java in gr. 10 and gr. 11 and learned quite a bit about it. It is an objected oriented language much like c#, c++, and visual basic.

It does have lots of documentation on the sun website and is nice for making games and what not.

However, it is slower in terms of executive of "BIG" programs compared to c#.

java and c# are basically brothers, know either one and you can know the other without much effort.