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Autem

Important to note this game does not get new patches. This it not a patch issue or a new anti-cheat being added. This game has no anti cheat, and was not recently updated.

In a game that I have had no problems with for many years, now several times a day I am running into a crash. I haven't added very many new cheats at all, and sometimes it even crashes the game when NO cheats are on. What might be the cause of this?

One thing I did recently was I converted all my number addresses to display as module+offset addresses. I did this in Notepad using a search and replace... but one thing I did NOT DO was make sure they all either have quotes or don't have quotes.

In other words, I have a mix of this
game.exe+1234
"game.exe"+1234
^Throughout the ENTIRE ct file it's a mix of both methods. That's ok, correct?

In some places a module will have quotes around it, and in others they don't. Could this be the cause of a game crash? Do I need to go through the entire file in Notepad and make sure every address either HAS (or doesn't have) quotes around the module? I haven't tried this because it would take me a while, but if this sounds like the possible problem I will do it.

If the quotes around the module don't matter, then I am at a loss for what else to consider that could be making new crashes happen lately (Game has not received a new update, and has no anticheat). Any ideas are welcome.

Possible symptom that may be telling: Sometimes after the game crashes, if I leave CE open and run the game again, the game actually crashes AGAIN during the loading screens. At that time, NO cheats have been turned on yet, but CE has auto-detected and attached to the game already. I am 100% sure this game has NO anti cheat. If I shut CE down and open CE again, this issue goes away until sometime later in the day. This is a brand new, and as of now repeated, pattern. What might go wrong in CE that could re-crash the game when I start it again?

Dark Byte · Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:16 pm Post subject:

crashes when no cheats are on: "It's your computer. E.g. windows update, security updates, anti virus, bad intel cpu with fried internals, etc..."

the quotes don't matter if the game.exe has no space in them. It shouldn't matter, unless you have a selfdefined symbol with the same name as the module but I doubt that

ParkourPenguin · Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject:

Does it crash if CE is never even opened? If so, then CE probably isn't the problem. Could be a regression in an update of something else the game uses- e.g. graphics driver

Does a new instance of CE without any table loaded (or personal autorun Lua scripts) cause it to crash? If so, then maybe it's an antivirus "protecting" you or a virus doing a shit job of hiding itself. Could also be the game patched itself without your knowledge.

Otherwise, it's your table that's the problem.

Quotes are just for exe names that have spaces in them- e.g. "My Game.exe"
Whether you use them or not probably won't make a difference unless they end up being unescaped quotes in Lua code or something like that

Autem · Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:06 pm Post subject:

Emya · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 28 Jul 2024 Posts: 14

I've encountered this issue as well. In my case, CE wasn't closed, and I had a script running (no Lua, but with AOB and some memory allocations). When the game crashed and I re-injected, reopening certain AOB scripts (in any order) that previously worked perfectly caused it to crash. The memory allocations were normal. By copying the current script, restarting CE, and pasting it back in without any changes, the issue was resolved. Since I first encountered this problem, I've always solved it by restarting CE, which is very convenient. Perhaps because the solution is so simple, this isn't considered an important bug and might not be fixed. However, I hope an expert can explain the cause and provide an answer in your post. At least, we'll understand the underlying principle.