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sasatefa2009
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | It's true that if you are mistaken about God then the concepts of Hell and all that are nothing to worry about. |
are you just convincing yourself with ignorance about god and asking his mercy ??
| Alex. wrote: | Islam seems boring as shit just like Arabic itself.
Two simple things which seem useless, not implying that Jews/Hebrew is better though. Both suck. |
Who released that fart ??? yes you 
you are the prove of "wtf im doin in life ??"
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Arabic_origin
| HackOtaku wrote: | | I don't feel like these are satisfactory to me. The first video the answer is basically that we opted for a test to become creatures better than angels, which just seems like an appeal to ego for believers, |
better than jinn not angels
| HackOtaku wrote: | | and I don't think it is a succinct answer towards why he would create a hell for non-believers knowing that so many would be thrown there. |
" Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger." Quran 17:15
Allah won't punish anyone until he got the message or had all the tools to seek the truth.
| HackOtaku wrote: | | but because I don't believe and haven't be convinced by the Qur'an, even with reading it open-mindedly. I attempt to believe, but can't, because it just seems so incorrect to me. |
You know that we know that you didn't read the Qur'an 
| HackOtaku wrote: | | I live a good life and I do good deeds and help others, and I refrain from evil just because it is in my nature to do so and I follow my nature. |
you are exactly as the one who kill and rape, No difference. (consider there is no law enforcement to punish)
now to answer your question about why Allah created us ?
i need to tell you that it's all an EFFORTS made my people in this subject but the real answer no one knows it except Allah
Like how can Allah is the Most Merciful and he had no creatures to be mercy on them.
and all the thing that Allah creations shows his qualities. like all the creations, Shows the he is the creator
Paradise shows his mercy. Hell shows his justice. Human mistakes shows his forgiveness.
there is many questions that you can't answer, Why i was born in this family ?? why i wasn't born in another place on earth ??
and such a questions that the only one who got the answer is Allah, not me, not even the prophet or anyone.
you can't stop yourself by questioning about something that is ALREADY DECREED. You are already created, So think what whould i do ??
Allah said in the Quran " And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. " and this is the religious order
but the fated one which is why Allah created us, Allah have answer it to the angels by "i know which you do not know"
Allah said in the Quran " He is not questioned about what He does, but they will be questioned. " Quran 21:23
i can answer yo a million question but i hope it's not for time wasting
i hope i've answer you, and if there is any english mistakes thats because i cant open my eyes while writing. 
quran. com
now can you answer me these questions
1- how you came ?? how you created ??
2- why don't you kill yourself ??
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| sasatefa2009 wrote: | Who released that fart ??? yes you
you are the prove of "wtf im doin in life ??" |
This inspired me to become a mullah
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1- how you came ?? how you created ??
2- why don't you kill yourself ??
ahahahaahahahahaahhahahaahahhaahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaha you fucking moron how can you take yourself seriously you can barely fucking type a sentence out LMFAO
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| konr wrote: | 1- how you came ?? how you created ??
2- why don't you kill yourself ??
ahahahaahahahahaahhahahaahahhaahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaha you fucking moron how can you take yourself seriously you can barely fucking type a sentence out LMFAO |
are you serious right now?
english isn't his first language
i'm sure he's more than happy to move this conversation to arabic,
but you can't ever offer any substance or a rebuttal other than an attack on someone.
tell us, konr, how many languages do you know? sasa knows at least 2, probably around 5
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:51 am Post subject: |
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Not to mention the numerous grammatical errors in his signature. Lmao
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | If you're not going to watch whole videos and then discredit them when you haven't grasped them shows whatever you offer has no credit to begin with. If you're not going to respect information I'm not going to bother wasting my time on someone who doesn't seek the truth.
As such you miss so many points. Continue complaining that God didn't make you an angel so obviously he can't exist.
You also claim you've read the qur'an open mindedly. But we disproved that claim a loooooong time ago.
Seriously, someone who approaches something with an open-mind doesn't dismiss things; it is apparent many points went over your head. |
If they went over my head, is it not your duty to show me the way and not write me off for your perceptions of transgressions? I am open to information, but I am partial in how it is presented. I watched the entirety of the second two videos, and a large chunk of the first, but I found the firsts' style to be too abrasive for me.
How about using your own words and explanations instead of relying on a video to sufficiently answer my questions and concerns. Or, if you insist on using videos, and then telling me they go over my head, clarify for my infidel mind what is meant. |
the only thing making you an "infidel" (idk why you started using that word or "transgressions") is that you didn't watch the whole video. which answers your question. you said you were with the atheist for the video, and he accepts the answer as being satisfactory. what you are doing is not transgressing, you are committing jihad.
dr. zakir naik literally has photographic memory. this dude is absolutely scary. i have provided you with more than enough information and resources. i have called you to al-islam, and i have done my duties; i don't have any more duties because now, you can't testify against me that a muslim that you interacted with did a genuine attempt at calling you to the truth.
but there are some people who would refuse to believe, even if they watch the moon split asunder.
are you one of those people?
or are you open to what we know to be true? if you are, then what the hell are you doing? no one can give you like what God has and will.
the best first step for this is to pray sincerely to God to be lead to the truth. you will only be surprised.
we can not convert anyone. you can't even convert yourself. the only one that grants shahada -- that chooses someone for islam -- is God.
the reason we want to inform you is so that you can't testify against us, and so that you can enter jannah with us together.
but if you still stay, for lack of a better word, stubborn (i wouldn't say stubborn because that wouldn't be fair for you. islam can't be accepted until it makes sense so you are doing the RIGHT thing) it is no loss to us or to God, nothing is irreplaceable, especially when it comes to the Creator.
so you are not transgressing, you are amassing incredible rewards by committing jihad and struggling for the truth.
it is actually REALLY HARD to get into hell. as sasa said, God will only throw you in hell if your bad deeds outweigh the good, and you fought against the truth when you were given fair chance to come to islam.
otherwise, the punishment of hellfire would not be just.
God is the most conclusive of all judges, He is just and fair.
even hell will one day be empty.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm1vJi3ygew
this one is good. but i feel like i linked it already? at least, it's a slightly longer verson of one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Me3JJAg9FA
this one is long and i haven't watched it, but i do know the guest is a fantastic and would definitely be able to answer your questions better than i can.
believe me, i'd love to answer your questions, but i am still a very new muslim. if this isn't a fair attempt at getting you to investigate islam, and throw out your misconceptions and what you've learned from islamophobic sources, you will start to find a lot of great truth and guidance in qur'an, and we are more than happy to answer any questions you have, and we will spend hours doing it...
but only if you're genuine in asking them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1gNNlgElJg
hellfire isn't eternal; what good you do is good for your soul only, what hurt you do only hurts your soul: you are paid for what you do.
and if God is just then hellfire as punishment was deserved, and you had legitimate opportunity and exposure to truth.
but no muslim wants to see you there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-VA3H2ggKU
seriously, if you want to be christian, you have to eat and drink the blood of god who died to forgive you because he had to die to forgive you. if you don't believe that God died a humiliating death to forgive your sins, then you are sent to hell permanently in christianity.
in islam, tarzan would have gone to heaven.
in islam, all you need for paradise is to have faith in God; and this is expressed through pious actions: you don't go to paradise just for acknowledging God and doing bad things too. your bad deeds get paid back to you in hell. if you do good and bad deeds, and your good deeds outweigh the bad by as much as a mustard seed, if there is just an atom's of faith in your heart, you go to paradise forever. the rest of your questions are there.
in judaism, you're a gentile, if God wanted you in paradise, he would've had you born a Jew, one of God's chosen people. all of the gentiles' souls are so worthless that they're stones to step on in paradise. they're obliterated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUiJeAzADG4
islam is the simplest. islam is the easiest. islam is true.
The Most Merciful, The Most Beneficent, The Embodiment of Peace, The Bountiful One, The Responding One, The Loving One
if ^ is true, WHY WOULD YOU FEAR HELLFIRE, AND NOT HIM?
hellfire is not to make you fear God or keep you moral.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3J2ntivDzk
you also mentioned that you tried reading qur'an.
did you do it with tafsir? you need to read qur'an with tafsir if you are kaafir.
read the 78th chapter then watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VAvW9z-Tvw
these are good, but shorter. you can find qur'an with tafsir at your local masjid, i'm not sure of where to get good tafsir online, and i like animated tafsir.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwNeHLk_z0aSUVA3dXVv--Z9wyet1YhKf
another playlist of tafsir:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwNeHLk_z0aSeOHERZPlGHXtkWWt9DMKI
i know that when you finally grasp the firmest hand-hold, when you really see the truth, someone of your caliber, it is impossible to be lost on.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| konr wrote: | 1- how you came ?? how you created ??
2- why don't you kill yourself ??
ahahahaahahahahaahhahahaahahhaahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaha you fucking moron how can you take yourself seriously you can barely fucking type a sentence out LMFAO |
See, you just a time waste.
I wrote all this and then, what you can do is making a fun of my English even though you understand everything. But I'd be happy if we talk in Arabic.
" You have some serious daddy issues "
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| Nobody wants to speak in Arabic because it's for fucking stupid fucks like you who who defend Islam with their lives. I know 4 languages, and I can speak respectfully in all of them. You're just a stupid fuck.
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| Channel GannoK wrote: | | Nobody wants to speak in Arabic because it's for fucking stupid fucks like you who who defend Islam with their lives. I know 4 languages, and I can speak respectfully in all of them. You're just a stupid fuck. |
i'm sure for every one language you give there are people like sheikh Ahmed Deedat (may Allah be pleased with him) who could give you three languages for every one you give him.
LANGUAGE LARGEST DICTIONARY NUMBER OF WORDS
German Der Duden 135,000 words
The number of words in the English language is: 1,025,109.8. This is the estimate by the Global Language Monitor on January 1, 2014.
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Arabic has (according to different Arabic sources listed at the end) between 90 million words and 500 million words.
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you couldn't learn arabic if you tried lmao
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| sasatefa2009 wrote: | | konr wrote: | 1- how you came ?? how you created ??
2- why don't you kill yourself ??
ahahahaahahahahaahhahahaahahhaahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahaha you fucking moron how can you take yourself seriously you can barely fucking type a sentence out LMFAO |
See, you just a time waste.
I wrote all this and then, what you can do is making a fun of my English even though you understand everything. But I'd be happy if we talk in Arabic.
" You have some serious daddy issues " |
Actually I was laughing at the questions and the dumb shit you're saying and then also making fun of the fact that you can barely form a sentence. When I say that I'm calling you a dumbass, because the things you are asking are fucking retarded. You're a waste of my time.
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