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finnegan waking up
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^full of crap claims
>where did i put words in your mouth
i showed you were. another example would be in this post where you said
>starting off by poisoning the well, nice
good thing i wasn't poisoning the well. wooooow. you don't even know what that means, do you?
like, seriously, you are fucking full of yourself. "hunter-gatherer" i haven't facepalmd that hard in so long
>please point out the strawman
now you're strawmanning your original strawman
>this is not an argument against my point
it kind of is. i'm noticing you don't seem to have had a philosophy class or you'd have touched on societies that don't require police, and even how we are working away from them; they're completely unnecessary.
"unrealistic"? is that why it's real, practiced before, and currently? 
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HackOtaku
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP.
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deleted19776
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Dark Byte wrote: | Impossible as long as people have free will and different opinions. Eventually it goes wrong
Perhaps when total control over people's thoughts is achieved it will be possible. |
This opinion is more valuable than expected... Surprised it came from a Dutch faggot.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Dark Byte wrote: | Impossible as long as people have free will and different opinions. Eventually it goes wrong
Perhaps when total control over people's thoughts is achieved it will be possible. |
and psychedelics
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finnegan waking up
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP. |
i already pointed out how stupid you were, and how you were talking about things you had no fucking clue on.
you're just copping out. you are actually poisoning the well in this, because you're saying i've offered nothing when i very obviously have.
i also made a couple points, it was you who made none.
a society that practices agriculture is not a hunter-gatherer you mong, you should only talk about what you're qualified to discuss, and given that you have no studies in anthropology, sociology or philosophy, given some of the terminology you've used, while openly lying, it's pretty clear you shouldn't be talking on this.
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HackOtaku
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP. |
i already pointed out how stupid you were, and how you were talking about things you had no fucking clue on.
you're just copping out. you are actually poisoning the well in this, because you're saying i've offered nothing when i very obviously have.
i also made a couple points, it was you who made none.
a society that practices agriculture is not a hunter-gatherer you mong, you should only talk about what you're qualified to discuss, and given that you have no studies in anthropology, sociology or philosophy, given some of the terminology you've used, while openly lying, it's pretty clear you shouldn't be talking on this. |
You are just a hostile, sad person.
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finnegan waking up
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP. |
i already pointed out how stupid you were, and how you were talking about things you had no fucking clue on.
you're just copping out. you are actually poisoning the well in this, because you're saying i've offered nothing when i very obviously have.
i also made a couple points, it was you who made none.
a society that practices agriculture is not a hunter-gatherer you mong, you should only talk about what you're qualified to discuss, and given that you have no studies in anthropology, sociology or philosophy, given some of the terminology you've used, while openly lying, it's pretty clear you shouldn't be talking on this. |
You are just a hostile, sad person. |
not my fault you don't have comprehension of what a strong community is like. being the argumentative person you are, who has plainly been demonstrated to disagree with me simply because it's me stating it (no matter how far off base you happen to be, you still have to disagree), even if it comes to the point of calling a heavily developed civilisation "hunter-gatherers", effectively setting several thousand years of development between natives and whites. because you have to be contrary.
no shit i'm talking to a white boy
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teeigeryuh
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| greatsage wrote: | | Shrooms wrote: | | Dark Byte wrote: | Impossible as long as people have free will and different opinions. Eventually it goes wrong
Perhaps when total control over people's thoughts is achieved it will be possible. |
What if I die and ressurect?
Would another Jesus justify world peace? |
Jesus never died alayhe salaam |
why the fuck do you have to spam your bullshit even when someone posts a retarded troll question
it just makes you less credible (which matter if you're preaching)
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finnegan waking up
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| teeigeryuh wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Shrooms wrote: | | Dark Byte wrote: | Impossible as long as people have free will and different opinions. Eventually it goes wrong
Perhaps when total control over people's thoughts is achieved it will be possible. |
What if I die and ressurect?
Would another Jesus justify world peace? |
Jesus never died alayhe salaam |
why the fuck do you have to spam your bullshit even when someone posts a retarded troll question
it just makes you less credible (which matter if you're preaching) |
get madder, child
you posted more bullshit than i did
and if you want it to go away you might as well leave, because i'm just getting started. so piss your pants and whine some more
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HackOtaku
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP. |
i already pointed out how stupid you were, and how you were talking about things you had no fucking clue on.
you're just copping out. you are actually poisoning the well in this, because you're saying i've offered nothing when i very obviously have.
i also made a couple points, it was you who made none.
a society that practices agriculture is not a hunter-gatherer you mong, you should only talk about what you're qualified to discuss, and given that you have no studies in anthropology, sociology or philosophy, given some of the terminology you've used, while openly lying, it's pretty clear you shouldn't be talking on this. |
You are just a hostile, sad person. |
not my fault you don't have comprehension of what a strong community is like. being the argumentative person you are, who has plainly been demonstrated to disagree with me simply because it's me stating it (no matter how far off base you happen to be, you still have to disagree), even if it comes to the point of calling a heavily developed civilisation "hunter-gatherers", effectively setting several thousand years of development between natives and whites. because you have to be contrary.
no shit i'm talking to a white boy |
The Native Americans still hunted and gathered a lot of their food, even if they did grow some, and it's one little point that I may have used a slightly incorrect terminology for, and you are attempting to make it seem like I must be completely wrong about everything because of it. You've avoided all the questions I've raised simply trying to ride off that one term, all while insulting me along the way. You are impossible to have civilized discourse with, you always debase yourself down to petty mudslinging.
We still need police, there are too many people with too many differences in opinion to ever think a "strong community" than can support itself without a police force. Name me one progressive, technologically-rich society that doesn't use police.'
If you keep insulting people while they're talking about a different point of view, don't be surprised when they no longer want to try and change your mind, because it becomes too annoying and not worth the trouble. It's not a "copout" thus making you the "winner", it's them getting fed up dealing with someone lashing out instead of creating discussion.
By they way, you're the one that started arguing with me about this topic, so don't act like I came in here trying to stir up shit with you, when it's your own projection.
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finnegan waking up
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | All shit talking, no formulated replies or arguments or attempts to properly refute or inform or make a point. I will wait for OP. |
i already pointed out how stupid you were, and how you were talking about things you had no fucking clue on.
you're just copping out. you are actually poisoning the well in this, because you're saying i've offered nothing when i very obviously have.
i also made a couple points, it was you who made none.
a society that practices agriculture is not a hunter-gatherer you mong, you should only talk about what you're qualified to discuss, and given that you have no studies in anthropology, sociology or philosophy, given some of the terminology you've used, while openly lying, it's pretty clear you shouldn't be talking on this. |
You are just a hostile, sad person. |
not my fault you don't have comprehension of what a strong community is like. being the argumentative person you are, who has plainly been demonstrated to disagree with me simply because it's me stating it (no matter how far off base you happen to be, you still have to disagree), even if it comes to the point of calling a heavily developed civilisation "hunter-gatherers", effectively setting several thousand years of development between natives and whites. because you have to be contrary.
no shit i'm talking to a white boy |
The Native Americans still hunted and gathered a lot of their food, even if they did grow some, and it's one little point that I may have used a slightly incorrect terminology for, and you are attempting to make it seem like I must be completely wrong about everything because of it. You've avoided all the questions I've raised simply trying to ride off that one term, all while insulting me along the way. You are impossible to have civilized discourse with, you always debase yourself down to petty mudslinging.
We still need police, there are too many people with too many differences in opinion to ever think a "strong community" than can support itself without a police force. Name me one progressive, technologically-rich society that doesn't use police.'
If you keep insulting people while they're talking about a different point of view, don't be surprised when they no longer want to try and change your mind, because it becomes too annoying and not worth the trouble. It's not a "copout" thus making you the "winner", it's them getting fed up dealing with someone lashing out instead of creating discussion.
By they way, you're the one that started arguing with me about this topic, so don't act like I came in here trying to stir up shit with you, when it's your own projection. |
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"Traditional societies" might not have needed police when eveeyone was hunting/gathering, but we're so far removed from that way of life |
| HackOtaku wrote: | | The Native Americans still hunted and gathered a lot of their food, even if they did grow some, and it's one little point that I may have used a slightly incorrect terminology for, and you are attempting to make it seem like I must be completely wrong about everything because of it. |
your entire point was that "because they're so far removed from us obviously they didn't need police". which is completely untrue. our way of life is similar to that in the time of the birth of Islam, and they did not have police. they have strong communities.
there are many others. you wouldn't have survived without natives teaching you agriculture.
i didn't avoid all of the questions, it's plainly shown and witnessed by others it is you who dodges questions.
> all while insulting me along the way. You are impossible to have civilized discourse with, you always debase yourself down to petty mudslinging.
hypocrite you are this blind to yourself
no, it obviously was a cop-out. lol.
you were obviously just trying to be an argumentative contrarian. no interest in truth. you've never had a philosophy class. go pick up some thoreau
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HackOtaku
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>Modern day way of life similar to time of birth of Islam
>Yeah fucking right
Please explain to me how we are similar. Explain to me how living in America with a diversity of people in a technologically advanced society with an international communication of ideas is similar to life in the 600's. In what ways are we similar enough in the point where we wouldn't need police?
>i didn't avoid all of the questions, it's plainly shown and witnessed by others it is you who dodges questions.
Effectively just you saying "No, you". Please show me questions in this thread of yours that I have not answered in some way. Most of everything you've said have been attacks. Where are these questions I am not answering?
>> all while insulting me along the way. You are impossible to have civilized discourse with, you always debase yourself down to petty mudslinging.
>hypocrite you are this blind to yourself
Okay, please show me in this thread where I have insulted you? Other than calling you a hostile, sad person after you were repeatedly attacking me out of left field instead of having proper communication. You are the instigator, if you are not, show me where in this thread you were warranted in insulting me.
>no, it obviously was a cop-out. lol.
>you were obviously just trying to be an argumentative contrarian. no interest in truth. you've never had a philosophy class. go pick up some thoreau
Three thing, a) You started the argument in the first place, you disagreed with me when I was talking to the OP. If this is not the case, prove it.
b) It's not a cop-out. Go and look at how you've presented yourself towards arguing against my points. Constantly aggressive for no reason. Tell me if you'd actually want to try and discuss anything with a person like that.
c) I've never had a class, but I study it. Philosophy isn't some secret knowledge you can only learn if you attend a class. Instead of using the actual cop-out argument you've been using of shielding behind "You haven't taken a class", how about you enlighten me on exactly what your class has taught you that leads you to the conclusion that it's not unrealistic to think our modern society could form a strong enough community to make police obsolete.
Finally, how about you answer some of my questions:
1) What's the point of law without enforcement, or in other words, is it sufficient to hope that the common man will obey a law for the sake of it being a law itself, or is enforcement necessary to give law strength?
2) Who will make sure wrongdoers face justice if not the police? If a wrong is done to a community, who in that community is responsible for collecting evidence, gathering facts, and trying to get to the bottom of it?
3) How could we ever, realistically, form a strong enough community of similar thinkers to warrant a lack of a police force?
4) Of what relevance is the notion that "traditional societies did not employ police" if we are not living in your definition of a traditional society? I am pretty sure traditional societies had their fair share of criminal actions as well, and I would venture a guess to say that those who had crime done unto them wish that there was someone to take care of that.
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finnegan waking up
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| someone who has no sense of society of community has no place to be reasoned with
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HackOtaku
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| Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| greatsage wrote: | | someone who has no sense of society of community has no place to be reasoned with |
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Channel GannoK
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| Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | someone who has no sense of society of community has no place to be reasoned with |
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You mush change reputation of different member to be able to change reputation of the same member twice.
that is such a good use of that image
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