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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evidence has been given time and time again you're just too dense to admit it. I can't be bothered with you anymore when you can't even have an actual discussion. You are delusional beyond help. Everyone else can see you're wrong and we've explained it so many times in so many cases but you refuse to admit it. So sad. I'm done with you.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Evidence has been given time and time again you're just too dense to admit it. I can't be bothered with you anymore when you can't even have an actual discussion. You are delusional beyond help. Everyone else can see you're wrong and we've explained it so many times in so many cases but you refuse to admit it. So sad. I'm done with you.


Evidence has been given time and time again you're just too dense to admit it. I can't be bothered with you anymore when you can't even have an actual discussion. You are delusional beyond help. Everyone else can see you're wrong and we've explained it so many times in so many cases but you refuse to admit it. So sad. I'm done with you.


wrecked, by the way. you never presented ANY evidence -- i was the one to do that. you are the one too dense to admit it and that you are wrong; by not facing up to reality, you are the delusional one.

you just got wrecked three times in a row, Connor.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's impossible to argue with someone like you because you flat out say something is fact about a sentence when it isn't, and then just repeat it over and over and make an argument that isn't even based on anything.

You didn't wreck anyone cupcake, you read the following line:

"what I say is 100% based on what I can quantify, not complete dribble written down and believed. "

And equated this to saying I must be wrong because originally the Quran wasn't written down and that's only recent. You personally didn't hear it spoken back then, correct? You learned of it and about it by reading it and hearing people speak what they have read of it as well. Therefore it's pretty fucking obvious that "written down and believed" is completely correct and you have in no way shown that is not true.

You say things repeatedly and when I tell you that you are incorrect and explain why you again repeat the same thing until I get bored, and then you chant about an imaginary victory. As I said, I'm done with you. It's a massive waste of my time. I'm not sat at home doing drugs and getting free money and trying to stroke my ego on a forum like yourself and this is just pointless. Seeya kiddo.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

except you've never explained why i'm incorrect, you've never offered anything of substance, you just give proof by assertion, and several fallacies, usually ad populum, argumentum ad silencio, ad hominem, and straw man.

i already addressed what can be quantified. but you only disregard, dismiss, and fail to comprehend what i post
because you are willfully ignorant, violent, bigoted, and biased.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with talix, konr has had his head up his ass, and not only has he been repeatedly wrecked, but his reputation has been sealed as a liar who is in contempt of the truth, reality, and whose motivation is character assassination; not pursuit of truth.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-_- wrote:
I agree with talix, konr has had his head up his ass, and not only has he been repeatedly wrecked, but his reputation has been sealed as a liar who is in contempt of the truth, reality, and whose motivation is character assassination; not pursuit of truth.
Confirmed you are a dumbcunt too. What a surprise, the other religious guy is a fucking moron just like Taylor.

I've said loads of times why what I said had nothing wrong with it but here's one last very easy to understand one with pictures!

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complete dribble written down and believed.


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Done
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again what you don't realise is that you aren't attacking qur'an, nor are you actually offering a response whatsoever. qur'an is not written down. sorry. it's not a book. the book is of the oral revelation. they are two completely separate things.

and you gave no argument but poisoning the well.


also, text refers to the body of a book. that doesn't refer to the book itself. again, qur'an is not a book, the book that contains qur'an is not qur'an; you aren't rebuking any of qur'an;

you can say the same thing about literally any fucking publication,
"hurr durr it's written dribble why should i believe that"
the problem is that it was NOT WRITTEN, it was SAID, and you are saying of something said, as if it were something "WRITTEN"; JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WROTE IT DOWN MUCH LATER; NEVER EDITING IT, NOTHING AGAINST WHAT WAS SAID.

you have to be dense to not grasp that. you're just being argumentative.


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and from what you cited:

The Quran (/kɔːrˈɑːn/[n 1] kor-ahn; Arabic: القرآن‎‎ al-Qurʾān,[n 2] literally meaning "the recitation"; also romanized Qur'an or Koran) is the central religious text of Islam, which Muslims believe to be a revelation from God (Arabic: الله‎‎, Allah).[1] It is widely regarded as the finest piece of literature in the Arabic language.[2][3] The Quran is divided into chapters called suras, which are then divided into verses, called ayahs.


11th-century North African Quran in the British Museum.

Quran − in Mashhad, Iran − written by Ali.
Muslims believe the Quran was verbally revealed by God to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel (Jibril),[4][5] gradually over a period of approximately 23 years, beginning on 22 December 609 CE,[6] when Muhammad was 40, and concluding in 632, the year of his death.[1][7][8] Muslims regard the Quran as the most important miracle of Muhammad, a proof of his prophethood,[9] and the culmination of a series of divine messages that started with the messages revealed to Adam and ended with Muhammad. The word "Quran" occurs some 70 times in the text of the Quran, although different names and words are also said to be references to the Quran.[10]

According to the traditional narrative, several companions of Muhammad served as scribes and were responsible for writing down the revelations.[11] Shortly after Muhammad's death, the Quran was compiled by his companions who wrote down and memorized parts of it.[12]

so according to this ^ Qur'an is not something written. al-Kitab is completely different.



verbally revealed and believed
not written down and believed
wow
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got that script back Smile

Enjoy being a delusional fuckwit that starts arguments about literally fucking nothing all of the time because his ego is so huge he can't actually stop himself. I feel really bad for anyone you are around irl.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
I got that script back Smile

Enjoy being a delusional fuckwit that starts arguments about literally fucking nothing all of the time because his ego is so huge he can't actually stop himself. I feel really bad for anyone you are around irl.


another lie

you said you removed it awhile ago.
it's plainly visible in your screenshots from before. so you lied before, too. you regretted ignoring me, lol.

ALSO, LMFAO
THIS WHOLE THING WAS YOU STARTING ARGUMENTS FOR NO REASON LMAO
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The world would be a better place
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzYgjC44dhA

^ in the first <5 minutes, this sheikh confirms as i said that qur'an is not written down, it is not a book, and you can not hold qur'an in your hands.

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