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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you, but how can you say your sources aren't biased when they agree with you? Holding one position rather than another is not a bias, it's the conclusion they came to. Fair enough if they just said things with no substance but they're very clearly quoting parts of scripture and explaining it all very well.

How the fuck can a website be biased by directly quoting scripture? Come back to me when you can refute how the actual scripture clearly does what we're saying it does.

A quick note to explain why what you're saying is bullshit:
The prophet says bad shit about women in one place, and then nice things in another and you completely forget the first. If it's perfect and unchangeable why is that?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you, but how can you say your sources aren't biased when they agree with you? Holding one position rather than another is not a bias, it's the conclusion they came to. Fair enough if they just said things with no substance but they're very clearly quoting parts of scripture and explaining it all very well.

How the fuck can a website be biased by directly quoting scripture? Come back to me when you can refute how the actual scripture clearly does what we're saying it does.
Sorry Konr, but Talix made his words bigger and redder and all caps, so I am pretty sure they're correct.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you, but how can you say your sources aren't biased when they agree with you? Holding one position rather than another is not a bias, it's the conclusion they came to. Fair enough if they just said things with no substance but they're very clearly quoting parts of scripture and explaining it all very well.

How the fuck can a website be biased by directly quoting scripture? Come back to me when you can refute how the actual scripture clearly does what we're saying it does.

A quick note to explain why what you're saying is bullshit:
The prophet says bad shit about women in one place, and then nice things in another and you completely forget the first. If it's perfect and unchangeable why is that?


"You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you,"
never said this. everything you said just fell flat.

pls cite anything beyond proven to be biased sources, instead of academic, credible, and authentic sources. as i have.

thanks



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you, but how can you say your sources aren't biased when they agree with you? Holding one position rather than another is not a bias, it's the conclusion they came to. Fair enough if they just said things with no substance but they're very clearly quoting parts of scripture and explaining it all very well.

How the fuck can a website be biased by directly quoting scripture? Come back to me when you can refute how the actual scripture clearly does what we're saying it does.

A quick note to explain why what you're saying is bullshit:
The prophet says bad shit about women in one place, and then nice things in another and you completely forget the first. If it's perfect and unchangeable why is that?


"You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you,"
never said this. everything you said just fell flat.

pls cite anything beyond proven to be biased sources, instead of academic, credible, and authentic sources. as i have.

thanks
pls cite anything beyond proven to be biased sources, instead of academic, credible, and authentic sources. as i have.

thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you, but how can you say your sources aren't biased when they agree with you? Holding one position rather than another is not a bias, it's the conclusion they came to. Fair enough if they just said things with no substance but they're very clearly quoting parts of scripture and explaining it all very well.

How the fuck can a website be biased by directly quoting scripture? Come back to me when you can refute how the actual scripture clearly does what we're saying it does.

A quick note to explain why what you're saying is bullshit:
The prophet says bad shit about women in one place, and then nice things in another and you completely forget the first. If it's perfect and unchangeable why is that?


"You say the source is biased because it disagrees with you,"
never said this. everything you said just fell flat.

pls cite anything beyond proven to be biased sources, instead of academic, credible, and authentic sources. as i have.

thanks
pls cite anything beyond proven to be biased sources, instead of academic, credible, and authentic sources. as i have.

thanks


already have.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you haven't Smile Nothing you've said has proven them to be anything other than biased sources written up by Muslims that are working backwards from the point of God, not hte other way. Nice try though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No you haven't Smile Nothing you've said has proven them to be anything other than biased sources written up by Muslims that are working backwards from the point of God, not hte other way. Nice try though.



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you didn't cite any credible sources.
i cited multiple.
i cited qur'an.
i cited hadith.

not only is qur'an not by muslims because Allah can not submit to himself, so this shows your incomprehension, and your willful ignorance (read: VIOLENCE AND BIOGRTY), you spread misinformation you KNOW to be untrue. this is the mark of your character.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
No you haven't Smile Nothing you've said has proven them to be anything other than biased sources written up by Muslims that are working backwards from the point of God, not hte other way. Nice try though.



hurr
>a nonmuslim trying to educate a muslim on islam
>mfw

you didn't cite any credible sources.
i cited multiple.
i cited qur'an.
i cited hadith.

not only is qur'an not by muslims because Allah can not submit to himself, so this shows your incomprehension, and your willful ignorance (read: VIOLENCE AND BIOGRTY), you spread misinformation you KNOW to be untrue. this is the mark of your character.
I don't know how many times we need to tell you that we don't believe that these books are the word of God before you stop using that as an argument.





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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

second is obviously a fallacy of quote out of context. this is due to passing in front of someone in prayer. this is in regards to ANYONE, not just females. you've obviously never been to a mosque lol, they go out of their way to not pass in front of someone praying.

the third is obviously because of the importance of a harmonic marriage that allows for a happy & healthy life. no one should be married & in a bad marriage, their life & religion, health & happiness would suffer and produce kids like konr.

the first, has been covered in several different answers, and is yet another fallacy of quote out of context.

“The Prophet, peace be and blessings upon him, explained that women’s mental deficiency is reflected in their weak memory, the fact that makes Shari`ah stipulate that a woman’s testimony must be corroborated by another woman. Thus, this injunction does not imply woman’s inferiority to man; rather it has more to do with justice than to gender.

As for the shortcoming in religion, this stems from the fact that when menstruating or having post- partum bleeding, women neither pray nor fast, and they do not have to make up for their prayers.

As we know, women have no hand in the obstacles that disrupt their religious performances. This is something divine, which reflects Almighty Allah’s overflowing mercy on them, for it will be extremely hard for a woman to be tasked with religious obligation while she is having menstruation or post-partum bleeding. That’s why she is exempted from fasting or praying, as a sign of mercy on her. Also, they do not make up their prayers. This is because if they were ordered to make up their prayers, it would be extremely hard for them, given that prayers are performed five times a day. Menses may last for a number of days, up to seven or eight or more. Post-partum bleeding lasts for forty days. It’d be definitely hard for women to be obliged to make up the prayers missed while responding to the demands of nature.

So, in the light of the above-mentioned facts, the Hadith does not have any indication of looking down upon women or considering them as inferior, especially when we know that some women excel men in many matters.
Yes, no one can deny the fact that a woman may perform many good deeds and exceed many men in virtue, morality, etc. Islamic history abounds with examples of great women who have made great contribution to the progress of mankind. This is very clear to anyone who is well informed about the status of women during the time of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and the early generations.
In addition, the Hadith in question does not disqualify women from being narrators of Hadiths, and there is nothing that prevents a woman from being one of Allah’s pious servants, if she is steadfast in her religion even with her being excused from fasting or praying during menstruation or post-partum bleeding”
^that is just one fatwa. this is just another example of your willingness to lie, and shows you are nothing but a liar.
this accusation and lie has been answered and covered by several scholars who address the /entire hadith/

fourth, the Prophet Muhammad, salah Allahu alayhe wa salaam, never said those words. outright fabrication and shows you are a liar.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.


^lol this is all attacks

you aren't quoting scripture at all. this is yet another lie of yours!!! lmfao!!
you continually illustrate your violence, and your ignorance, and how much you refute reality and continually propagate lies that /are not in our holy scriptures/, so you are clear and plain as day to anyone with knowledge.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.


^lol this is all attacks

you aren't quoting scripture at all. this is yet another lie of yours!!! lmfao!!
you continually illustrate your violence, and your ignorance, and how much you refute reality and continually propagate lies that /are not in our holy scriptures/, so you are clear and plain as day to anyone with knowledge.
What I posted even cites where they are in the scripture lmao please try harder
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.


^lol this is all attacks

you aren't quoting scripture at all. this is yet another lie of yours!!! lmfao!!
you continually illustrate your violence, and your ignorance, and how much you refute reality and continually propagate lies that /are not in our holy scriptures/, so you are clear and plain as day to anyone with knowledge.
What I posted even cites where they are in the scripture lmao please try harder


originally you did not contain scripture and i still replied, when i replied you added one which doesn't support your cause at all, it only dignifies mine.
because i actually understand what it says. you don't.

so when you say "they", you are lying; you mean "it", and you do not understand "it", because: you are lying
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.


^lol this is all attacks

you aren't quoting scripture at all. this is yet another lie of yours!!! lmfao!!
you continually illustrate your violence, and your ignorance, and how much you refute reality and continually propagate lies that /are not in our holy scriptures/, so you are clear and plain as day to anyone with knowledge.
What I posted even cites where they are in the scripture lmao please try harder


originally you did not contain scripture and i still replied, when i replied you added one which doesn't support your cause at all, it only dignifies mine.
because i actually understand what it says. you don't.

so when you say "they", you are lying; you mean "it", and you do not understand "it", because: you are lying
I linked you an entire page that quotes and links scripture while explaining it and you dismissed it as biased because you're a brainwashed muslim that can't take anyone having a different opinion than you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
greatsage wrote:
konr wrote:
Yeah you're actually just a brainwashed dolt twisting shit as much as possible to fit your own narrative as you do even with clear sentences in the English language that everyone else can read perfectly fine but you seem to have trouble with. Pointless conversations. Any of the actual good responses you give are surrounded with you clearly just tricking yourself into thinking things are facts when they're not.

Also I don't think you understand what the word lie means either. I am not lying, I am quoting scripture from books you Muslims follow. If it apparently never happened then that's on the scripture many of you fuckers decide to take as truths, not me.


^lol this is all attacks

you aren't quoting scripture at all. this is yet another lie of yours!!! lmfao!!
you continually illustrate your violence, and your ignorance, and how much you refute reality and continually propagate lies that /are not in our holy scriptures/, so you are clear and plain as day to anyone with knowledge.
What I posted even cites where they are in the scripture lmao please try harder


originally you did not contain scripture and i still replied, when i replied you added one which doesn't support your cause at all, it only dignifies mine.
because i actually understand what it says. you don't.

so when you say "they", you are lying; you mean "it", and you do not understand "it", because: you are lying
I linked you an entire page that quotes and links scripture while explaining it and you dismissed it as biased because you're a brainwashed muslim that can't take anyone having a different opinion than you.


i linked you to an entire page that refutes what you cited; you dismissed them, probably because not only are you a bigot against muslims but you're also racist and hate them for being so reputable they attended dinner at the white house with Obama.

i cited scholars. you cited bigots.

as for the images you posted, i already covered as to how you did not cite scripture.

>having a different opinion over the fact of something
this is how much of a liar you are. you call me brainwashed and delusional when you are trying to apply opinion as more authoritative than truth... when opinion was never a question;
just another insert from you to flirt away from the truth,

and lie, lie, lie
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