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finnegan waking up
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:45 am Post subject:

konr wrote:

greatsage wrote:

the point is that we're tired of seeing you and want you to see that
not that we want to see you
jfc this is exactly our point. we don't want you, and you say we want you, when we want you gone. shit is fucking tiring.

pls someone get his word count in this topic, divide it by the average wpm of typing speed. show what time his deliberation really illustrate; what his words really say.

edit:
according to my calculation without reading time and just his typing time (not even contemplation time) he would have spent a minimum of 22 minutes.

and i know kyle would've had him rekt by then.

Speak for yourself bud I actually understand where he's coming from in this thread. If you asked any person that works in a difficult/well paid field to spend an hour of their time on something else they will think in literal terms about what their time is worth and only do the thing you want if you can match it.

This is completely reasonable. He stands to get literally nothing from wasting his time actually debating instead of shitposting.

Speak for yourself bud I actually understand where he's coming from in this thread. If you asked any person that works in a difficult/well paid field to spend an hour of their time on something else they will think in literal terms about what their time is worth and not waste their time deliberating via shitposting.

This is completely reasonable. He stands to get literally nothing from shitposting instead of actually debating.

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are you getting it yet?? wow

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:58 am Post subject:

Yeah that doesn't work at all bud sorry. Shitposting like he does takes very little effort and time on his part. A debate takes a lot more effort and also to listen to Kyle for an hour while being watched by people like you. He stands to gain nothing.

finnegan waking up
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:12 am Post subject:

konr wrote:

Yeah that doesn't work at all bud sorry. Shitposting like he does takes very little effort and time on his part. A debate takes a lot more effort and also to listen to Kyle for an hour while being watched by people like you. He stands to gain nothing.

sorry but it's already been shown to have taken sufficient enough time for a debate to finish and you to get whooped, similarly; like now

way to show just how willing you are to contradict the truth just because i say it.

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:55 am Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

konr wrote:

I realise you convince yourself that things have "already been shown" and are "evident" all the time just because you decided so, but you haven't actually shown that at all. Even if you did prove the numbers you spat out is 20~ minutes an hour or..? You don't just have a debate and stop a third of the way in because you lost. That's not how debates work fucknuts.

finnegan waking up
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:56 am Post subject:

konr wrote:

greatsage wrote:

konr wrote:

except i have; and again:

the point

your head

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:01 am Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

konr wrote:

greatsage wrote:

konr wrote:

except i have; and again:

the point

your head

No, you haven't. You've assumed a bunch of things and decided a number based on averages. Even if it did take him this time accumulated over all the posts he's made it isn't close to an hour and he'll have done it at completely different times, so that's even split up into even shorter amounts of time throughout a day of actually doing useful things for his work. I realise you can't understand putting a price on your time because you're on benefits and you've never been in a situation where you'd have to, but please dude, get a grip.

finnegan waking up
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:45 am Post subject:

how many degrees do you have konr? lmao

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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:49 am Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

how many degrees do you have konr? lmao

ad hominem

Rin
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:06 am Post subject:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Rin wrote:

Personally, I don't like any of these candidates that have any chance of making it onto a ballot for this year's election, but I do enjoy seeing people debate.

It matters not to me if you like Good Guy Bernie, or Make America Great Again Trump. I disagree with both of them on a multitude of issues and agree with them on a few.

It's not like Trump doesn't have any merit to some of his things... the same way Bernie has merit for what he wants. It's just that where there are flaws, they are fatal flaws that cannot be had for more than a couple years. Given that the general populous has no idea as to what rights they actually have, 4 years is too long of a time. Some of their social and economic ideas would have implications that do more harm than good. (This is assuming they can get their shit passed through Congress/enacted upon)

Honestly, Hillary might be best because it's the same old shit over and over again... same shit different guy type of deal. Saying that just disgusted me, because I dislike her more than the two above. It's just that stability may be more important right now than a revolution.

I could be wrong, maybe we (the US) need huge changes in policy. I would advocate for repeals of policies put in place instead of adding more. There's work that shows that if we had not added a shit ton of regulations in the last 30 years, we could have increased GDP per capita in the us by like 13 grand if not more (conservative estimate including recessions). That's really different than what most people advise, and therefore I'm categorized as an anarchist or anarcho-capitalist for some reason.

I know money isn't everything, but having someone who understood this and could find a nice middle ground between popular opinion and good policy is the unicorn.

Anyways, back to the debate...

Doesn't matter who wins if Congress doesn't do shit.

I just puked in my mouth.

Confirmed that you have shit political opinions. So you want to keep corruption in congress, when Bernie's top issue is to get money out of politics. You're the problem, not congress.

Wanting to get corruption out of politics and being able to are two very different things... The president has little to no power in comparison to Congress. If you want corruption out of congress you need congressmen to change, not the president. Bernie has little to no ability to help with the issues of corruption.

I hope you know how policy creation works in America. It really sounds like you don't know anything.

So say I run for president and my top priority is to end world hunger and to stop wars... man I'd be a god if I could do that. That's essentially what Bernie is... A man with dreams and no way to fulfill them. Now the things he could do, take funds that do not exist... so taxes would increase which only further allows congress to be corrupt... You keep assuming that the tax money will go to the policies he wants... some of it will. A lot of it won't. You know why too, because of "corruption" and the technical term is rent-seeking. Now let's say he cuts out the policies that are bad and uses those funds... same thing occurs because of the corruption in our system.

You don't even have a bit of grasp of my political views, nor do you have any grasp of how US politics actually works. How it works on paper and how it performs in reality are not the same.

Oh and if anyone but Hilary gets elected, market uncertainty fucks with the economy... Why is that? because Hilary is same old shit different guy.
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finnegan waking up
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:12 am Post subject:

Rin wrote:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Rin wrote:

oh boy
you really don't know how far up bernie's ass kyle is
he is actually educated and i eagerly await his reply to this. bernie's plan is not "make me president and everything is magically better"; his angle of execution is much more elaborate: you make it sound as though the amendment king doesn't have his bases covered when it comes to law...
which, really sounds like you don't know anything.

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:15 am Post subject:

You say his bases are covered, but I mean come on... do you actually think they'll go anywhere? Obama had pretty good plans too... how well did that turn out? If you actually read the bills that go through... it's pretty shitty Having bases covered and actually have things come into fruition the way he ideally wants are two different things Yea we got the affordable care act, along with a lot of little extra pieces of shit... go read the actual bill.. That bill has so much extra legislation that Kyle deems as corruption. The same thing will happen with bernie's stuff. It's inevitable if you don't get rid of corruption. _________________ Hi

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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:47 am Post subject:

Rin wrote:

You say his bases are covered, but I mean come on... do you actually think they'll go anywhere? Obama had pretty good plans too... how well did that turn out? If you actually read the bills that go through... it's pretty shitty

Having bases covered and actually have things come into fruition the way he ideally wants are two different things

Yea we got the affordable care act, along with a lot of little extra pieces of shit... go read the actual bill.. That bill has so much extra legislation that Kyle deems as corruption.

The same thing will happen with bernie's stuff. It's inevitable if you don't get rid of corruption.

Don't bother. Don't waste your time.
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Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:53 pm Post subject:

Rin wrote:

Well, can't say that shit isn't true. Whoever wins wins pow pow done done done.

We're fucked either way it goes

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:39 am Post subject:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

I look forward to the live stream. Show the link when ready.

He's not going to do it, he's a pussy. Want to take his place bitch boy?

No, I changed my mind to Hillary.

FUCKING LMAO, YOU'RE JOKING

Let's just say I learned some proprietary knowledge about the banking industry that made me change my mind.

Antagonist wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

I look forward to the live stream. Show the link when ready.

He's not going to do it, he's a pussy. Want to take his place bitch boy?

No, I changed my mind to Hillary.

Can't do Hillary. Shed be disastrous in my field. Regulations to develop projects in California is up the ass and controlled by labor unions with CEQA. There are few conservatives cities here. Carlsbad in cali just turned liberal with their elected council with 3-2 swing vote. And when liberals get in power they always seem to abuse it and push their agendas. More regulations to an absurd limit. We pay up to a million dollars and almost 2 years of time for an EIR document full of research and analysis based on numbers people pull out of their ass. Pay for absurd amount for experts like traffic engineers, sound engineers, geophysicist. On top of that lawyers. Then you gotta deal with the cloak and dagger bullshit where a comoetitor or some special interests forms an LLC under a different name and just sues you to drain your resources and slow down the process even more. Also the drought problem. Liberal politicians are so incompetent here. Need Trump to privatize irrigation and water transport system. People think this drought problem is man made. It's been happening for years. It's just that expensive as fuck to transport water from places like Colorado down here because thr water transport system is old.

Sorry man, Hillary is gonna make me richer so I'm going with her.

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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:41 pm Post subject:

Waxxup wrote:

Antagonist wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Waxxup wrote:

I look forward to the live stream. Show the link when ready.

He's not going to do it, he's a pussy. Want to take his place bitch boy?

No, I changed my mind to Hillary.

Sorry man, Hillary is gonna make me richer so I'm going with her.

What do you think is the probability with Hillary being president going to war with Russia? Try to look into that because there is some serious bad shit going on with the Clinton Foundation (Clinton Cash by Peter Schweizer).

Other than that, I disagree. Part of my family work for high executive positions for Wall street bank, many of them are betting on Hillary too but also forget the risk with the Clinton Foundation scandal - which Russia has information about (they hacked her server) and plan to use it as black mail against Hillary. Assuming that the Clinton Foundation information is kept under control, then yeah you'd make more money with Hillary. However, that's why I'd want you to look into the CF because it's really fucked up. You can do that by reading Clinton Foundation and making your own conclusions. Trump has part of those files too and will most likely leak it later after the convention. He has them because he is tied to the CF (he donated to the CF) amongst many powerful politicians in D.C. It's literally a personal hedge fund to sell information, influence, weapons, etc. to countries like Saudi Arabia (25 million donated).

Right now with the market IMO, it's all a big facade. I don't follow it around too much, so I could be wrong. But I'm just making natural conclusions with the low interest rates and QE the feds have been doing. The capital allocation is mishandled. Plus companies do not care or have obligation to help fix the broken middle class system anyways. They are only following where the market is going and the market right now is opposite ends of the spectrum (they call it the "Consumer Hourglass Theory"). Either you're really rich or you're really poor. They're pushing for products on the lower and the higher end. No in between. The so called environment regulations are controlled by labor unions and others which is doing more harm than good. Which is killing our labor force and you already know fucks our GDP. The stock market is doing good but the labor force is doing shit. How does that add up? The only good thing about Hillary is what Rin said "stabilizing" the market but we're long due for a market correction, which again capital allocations are mishandled which is what Kyle is fighting for but too dense to understand the metrics and process.

But anyways, I'd suggest you look into it more. If Hillary can make her Clinton Foundation scandal go away, you will make more money in the short term and will fuck you over anyways in the long run due to natural market correction. To draw similarities in my field, it's going to be like the RE crash in 1990 and 2008. Being in real estate, you get to understand how the country runs a bit better based on how many people buy houses, how many businesses take out a commercial loan, rent prices, etc.
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