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| I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
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What is the point of a rally for this? sounds like a bunch of college aged people who want to feel like they're doing something good while actually doing nothing but grouping together to say "violence sux".
Also, your post is self righteous as shit, holy shit. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
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| greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
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| konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
"And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt. So it goes."
- Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse 5
Not relevant, but one of my favorite Vonnegut quotes. |
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| konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
quote out of context. you also are misleading on circumstances of lot's wife, it was not out of her compassion, she was one of the evil-livers of the city so it was decreed for her to stay, this was made known to Lut.
your quote is also entirely irrelevant as well. muslims aren't enemies of gays. hurr durr that is why we were expressing support.
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| greatsage wrote: | | konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
quote out of context. you also are misleading on circumstances of lot's wife, it was not out of her compassion, she was one of the evil-livers of the city so it was decreed for her to stay, this was made known to Lut.
your quote is also entirely irrelevant as well. muslims aren't enemies of gays. hurr durr that is why we were expressing support.
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He didn't say anything about Lot's wife being compassionate...? |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
quote out of context. you also are misleading on circumstances of lot's wife, it was not out of her compassion, she was one of the evil-livers of the city so it was decreed for her to stay, this was made known to Lut.
your quote is also entirely irrelevant as well. muslims aren't enemies of gays. hurr durr that is why we were expressing support.
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yeah, i wasn't directing that toward anyone, but i was directing it toward the quote you posted. i should've clarified more but i chose not to.
not only that, but it is what he left out of the story. with just a bit you may get the wrong image of lut's wife.
example every prayer we terminate with the prayer of ibrahim alayhe salaam:
oh Allah, make me and my children steadfast in salah. oh Allah, accept the prayer. oh Allah, forgive me, and my parents, and the believers on the Day of Judgment.
this is the prayer of ibrahim, and you might think he is asking forgiveness of his parents. but if you know the whole story, his father becomes very hostile toward him, and he is told that his prayers for him are for naught.
you can frame things a particular way if you do not provide the entire context which you can not do with quotes. |
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| greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
quote out of context. you also are misleading on circumstances of lot's wife, it was not out of her compassion, she was one of the evil-livers of the city so it was decreed for her to stay, this was made known to Lut.
your quote is also entirely irrelevant as well. muslims aren't enemies of gays. hurr durr that is why we were expressing support.
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yeah, i wasn't directing that toward anyone, but i was directing it toward the quote you posted. i should've clarified more but i chose not to.
not only that, but it is what he left out of the story. with just a bit you may get the wrong image of lut's wife.
example every prayer we terminate with the prayer of ibrahim alayhe salaam:
oh Allah, make me and my children steadfast in salah. oh Allah, accept the prayer. oh Allah, forgive me, and my parents, and the believers on the Day of Judgment.
this is the prayer of ibrahim, and you might think he is asking forgiveness of his parents. but if you know the whole story, his father becomes very hostile toward him, and he is told that his prayers for him are for naught.
you can frame things a particular way if you do not provide the entire context which you can not do with quotes. |
Oh, alright. On that note then, it would help you understand if you had the full quote:
| Quote: | And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt.
So it goes.
People aren't supposed to look back. I'm certainly not going to do it anymore.
I've finished my war book now. The next one I write is going to be fun.
This one is a failure, and had to be, since it was written by a pillar of salt.” |
It's more about how people aren't supposed to look back on their past and instead move forward.
You can argue that he was implying she was compassionate because he himself is compassionate towards the Germans after the bombing of Dresden, but I've always understood it as having more to do with not being able to move on from certain things in your life. (Which makes sense because PTSD is a major element in the book.)
To clarify: Lot could have made it out of the burning city (in the biblical text she technically did) if she had simply not looked back on what she was leaving back there, but she did. Likewise, Vonnegut was a prisoner of war during the Dresden fire bombings, but managed to make it out alive. However, because of his inability to not look back on it all, he compares himself to Lot's wife. I think by "it was so human" he has more to do with out tendency to dwell of the past instead of our tendency for compassion.
However, I also subscribe to the philosophy that once a book / any work of art is out there, it is up to the individual to decide what anything "means" to them, so if you understand it as compassion, there's no reason you'd be "wrong", except for the reason you've presented me. |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | konr wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | Channel GannoK wrote: | | I bet you were saying allah akhbar to yourself because your true Islamic beliefs say kill the gays and you're getting pretty deep init m8. |
but you have no idea what my islamic belief states. it does not say kill the gays, l0l.
the fact that you think this relates to islam at all shows you are stupid. it was not a motivation. |
“And Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a brazen
people.’ But the answer of his people was only that they said, ‘Evict them from your city! Indeed, they are men who keep themselves pure.’ So We saved him and his family, except for his wife; she was of those who remained [with the evildoers]. And We rained [stones] upon them. Then see how the end of the
criminals was.” (7:8184) |
quote out of context. you also are misleading on circumstances of lot's wife, it was not out of her compassion, she was one of the evil-livers of the city so it was decreed for her to stay, this was made known to Lut.
your quote is also entirely irrelevant as well. muslims aren't enemies of gays. hurr durr that is why we were expressing support.
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He didn't say anything about Lot's wife being compassionate...? |
yeah, i wasn't directing that toward anyone, but i was directing it toward the quote you posted. i should've clarified more but i chose not to.
not only that, but it is what he left out of the story. with just a bit you may get the wrong image of lut's wife.
example every prayer we terminate with the prayer of ibrahim alayhe salaam:
oh Allah, make me and my children steadfast in salah. oh Allah, accept the prayer. oh Allah, forgive me, and my parents, and the believers on the Day of Judgment.
this is the prayer of ibrahim, and you might think he is asking forgiveness of his parents. but if you know the whole story, his father becomes very hostile toward him, and he is told that his prayers for him are for naught.
you can frame things a particular way if you do not provide the entire context which you can not do with quotes. |
Oh, alright. On that note then, it would help you understand if you had the full quote:
| Quote: | And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt.
So it goes.
People aren't supposed to look back. I'm certainly not going to do it anymore.
I've finished my war book now. The next one I write is going to be fun.
This one is a failure, and had to be, since it was written by a pillar of salt.” |
It's more about how people aren't supposed to look back on their past and instead move forward.
You can argue that he was implying she was compassionate because he himself is compassionate towards the Germans after the bombing of Dresden, but I've always understood it as having more to do with not being able to move on from certain things in your life. (Which makes sense because PTSD is a major element in the book.)
To clarify: Lot could have made it out of the burning city (in the biblical text) if she had simply not looked back on what she was leaving back there, but she did. Likewise, Vonnegut was a prisoner of war during the Dresden fire bombings, but managed to make it out alive. However, because of his inability to not look back on it all, he compares himself to Lot's wife. I think by "it was so human" he has more to do with out tendency to dwell of the past instead of our tendency for compassion.
However, I also subscribe to the philosophy that once a book / any work of art is out there, it is up to the individual to decide what anything "means" to them, so if you understand it as compassion, there's no reason you'd be "wrong", except for the reason you've presented me. |
it wasn't for looking back is what you are wrong about. lut was the one who received the message. lut's wife never left the city because she thought lut alayhe salaam was crazy.
According to the Quran, Lot was a prophet and a nephew of Abraham. A group of angels visited Abraham as guests[8] and gave him glad tidings of a son "endowed with wisdom";[9] they told him that they had been sent by God to the "guilty people"[10] of Lot[11] to destroy them[12] with "a shower of stones of clay"[13] and deliver Lot and those who believed in him, except his wife saying "she is of those who lag behind".[14][15] The Quran also draws upon Lot's wife as an "example for the unbelievers" as she was married to a righteous man but cheated him by not believing in his message and was thus condemned to Hell.[3][16]
The people of Sodom and Gomorrah, the twin cities which Lot was sent to with God's message, transgressed consciously against the bounds of God. Their avarice led to inhospitality and robbery, which in turn led to the humiliation of strangers by mistreatment and rape. It was their abominable sin of sexual misconduct which was seen as symptomatic of their attitudes,[17][18] and upon Lot's exhorting them to abandon their transgression against God, they ridiculed him,[19] threatening with dire consequences;[20] Lot only prayed to God to be saved from doing as they did.[3][21]
Lot was powerless to protect the boys, but they revealed to him that they were indeed angels sent by God to punish the people for their transgressions. They advised Lot to leave the place during the night and not look back, informing him that his wife would be left behind on account of her sinful nature and that they "were about to bring down upon the folk of this township a fury from the sky because they are evil-doers".[3] Keeping his faith in God, Lot left his home and the cities during the night with his family and others who believed in him, and only his wife stayed behind. When morning came, God turned the cities upside down, and rained down on them stones hard as baked clay,[28] putting an end to the lives of the people of Sodom and Gomorrah once and for all.[3]
so she did not look back on the past, to reflect on what she leaves behind when moving forward. she stayed behind completely because she had no faith in God, did not believe in Lut, and wanted to stay in a city full of rapists.
edit: moreover, to say about punishment of transgressors, it is not of men to carry out. the deeds of men will collect, they will have chances to reflect, and then they will continue transgression. then Allah, spares whom He will and punishes whom He will. typically through disasters like earthquakes or storms. not genocide. |
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Okay, but Vonnegut was referencing the Bible and not the Quran.
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To clarify: Lot could have made it out of the burning city (in the biblical text she technically did) |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | Okay, but Vonnegut was referencing the Bible and not the Quran.
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Before dawn arrives, ready or not, they had to leave. Lot expressed some hesitancy about leaving, but the angels grabbed the hands of Lot, his wife and two daughters, and brought them out of the city limits giving the orders:”Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”
Initially, Lot was opposed to fleeing to the mountains, so he adamantly requested to take refuge in the small town of Zoar, just beyond Sodom’s city limits. Granted his request, while they were en route, in the middle of the night, Lot’s wife looked back from behind him, disregarding the angel's order and thus was turned into a pillar of salt.
(Genesis 19:16-26)
The Hebrew verb used for Lot's wife "looking" back is נבט, nāḇaṭ. Her looking back at Sodom differs in word usage to Abraham "looking" שקף, šāqap toward Sodom in (18:16).
given the qur'an is more authentic, and bible only confirms her being at city limits, and looked from behind him, it's pretty obvious the reason she was looking back was not at what she was leaving, it was because she did not trust her husband that she would not leave sodom.
it doesn't say she looked back longing for what she left behind. and does kurt say biblical? |
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| greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | Okay, but Vonnegut was referencing the Bible and not the Quran.
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Before dawn arrives, ready or not, they had to leave. Lot expressed some hesitancy about leaving, but the angels grabbed the hands of Lot, his wife and two daughters, and brought them out of the city limits giving the orders:”Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”
Initially, Lot was opposed to fleeing to the mountains, so he adamantly requested to take refuge in the small town of Zoar, just beyond Sodom’s city limits. Granted his request, while they were en route, in the middle of the night, Lot’s wife looked back from behind him, disregarding the angel's order and thus was turned into a pillar of salt.
(Genesis 19:16-26)
The Hebrew verb used for Lot's wife "looking" back is נבט, nāḇaṭ. Her looking back at Sodom differs in word usage to Abraham "looking" שקף, šāqap toward Sodom in (18:16).
given the qur'an is more authentic, and bible only confirms her being at city limits, and looked from behind him, it's pretty obvious the reason she was looking back was not at what she was leaving, it was because she did not trust her husband that she would not leave sodom. |
Are you trolling or what? Seriously. For starters, we are talking about the message being conveyed in a different book entirely, a message about "looking back" on things.
In the case of Lot's wife, it has to do with her looking back on the life she was leaving behind, a life of vanity and sensualism, in his case it has to do with the violence he was leaving behind in the armed services. In the case of the verb difference, it doesn't matter if she was literally or figuratively "looking back" (which seems to be what you're saying), because they both convey the same idea.
It doesn't matter what the "historical accuracy" of such a ridiculous event anyway, because it never actually happened . You want to throw around "more authentic" because of your beliefs, but nothing besides your own books back up the authenticity. More importantly though, it doesn't matter what's "authentic", what matters is the message being conveyed. It's fine to use the biblical story as a root of understanding (because that's what Vonnegut was referencing, so you might as well), but you don't need to know the story of Lot to understand what he's trying to say, and it even doesn't matter if people mistake her looking back for compassion instead of longing, what's important is the concept that people shouldn't look back on things that are better left behind, but they do anyway. |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | greatsage wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | Okay, but Vonnegut was referencing the Bible and not the Quran.
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Before dawn arrives, ready or not, they had to leave. Lot expressed some hesitancy about leaving, but the angels grabbed the hands of Lot, his wife and two daughters, and brought them out of the city limits giving the orders:”Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”
Initially, Lot was opposed to fleeing to the mountains, so he adamantly requested to take refuge in the small town of Zoar, just beyond Sodom’s city limits. Granted his request, while they were en route, in the middle of the night, Lot’s wife /looked back from/ behind him, disregarding the angel's order and thus was turned into a pillar of salt.
(Genesis 19:16-26)
The Hebrew verb used for Lot's wife "looking" back is נבט, nāḇaṭ. Her looking back at Sodom differs in word usage to Abraham "looking" שקף, šāqap toward Sodom in (18:16).
given the qur'an is more authentic, and bible only confirms her being at city limits, and looked from behind him, it's pretty obvious the reason she was looking back was not at what she was leaving, it was because she did not trust her husband that she would not leave sodom. |
Are you trolling or what? Seriously. For starters, we are talking about the message being conveyed in a different book entirely, a message about "looking back" on things.
In the case of Lot's wife, it has to do with her looking back on the life she was leaving behind, a life of vanity and sensualism, in his case it has to do with the violence he was leaving behind in the armed services. In the case of the verb difference, it doesn't matter if she was literally or figuratively "looking back" (which seems to be what you're saying), because they both convey the same idea.
It doesn't matter what the "historical accuracy" of such a ridiculous event anyway, because it never actually happened . You want to throw around "more authentic" because of your beliefs, but nothing besides your own books back up the authenticity. More importantly though, it doesn't matter what's "authentic", what matters is the message being conveyed. It's fine to use the biblical story as a root of understanding (because that's what Vonnegut was referencing, so you might as well), but you don't need to know the story of Lot to understand what he's trying to say, and it even doesn't matter if people mistake her looking back for compassion instead of longing, what's important is the concept that people shouldn't look back on things that are better left behind, but they do anyway. |
Are you trolling or what? Seriously. For starters, stop being a condescending douchebag.
> the message being conveyed in a different book entirely, a message about "looking back" on things.
what? the message in qur'an and bible is not about looking back on things. so i am assuming you mean kurt's book?
>In the case of Lot's wife, it has to do with her looking back on the life she was leaving behind, a life of vanity and sensualism,
according to kurt, maybe. but that is not what happened in the qur'anic (authentic) narrative, nor in the biblical narrative.
>In the case of the verb difference, it doesn't matter if she was literally or figuratively "looking back" (which seems to be what you're saying), because they both convey the same idea.
no, they don't. here you either failed to comprehend what i said, misread, or deliberately misrepresented it. how can you look back on where you are currently at? it does not make sense. the verb for looking upon sodom is different than what is used.
in the photograph you will see us looking back upon the stage.
if you looked at the photographs, you would see my friend when he /looked back from/ the stage /he was on/, if we were not looking toward the stage and were looking away, he would be /behind us/.
ergo, you are inserting an instance that did not happen in either narrative. she did not look back in longing. she never left because she disbelieved in revelation.
>It doesn't matter what the "historical accuracy"
again you misinterpret. it is not historical accuracy, it is narrative autheticity. the narrative you quoted admits it is corrupted.
>because it never actually happened
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/04/The-Discovery-of-the-Sin-Cities-of-Sodom-and-Gomorrah.aspx
http://www.icr.org/article/have-sodom-gomorrah-been-discovered
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3270999/Has-Biblical-city-Sodom-Monstrous-site-Jordan-matches-descriptions-area-destroyed-God.html
> More importantly though, it doesn't matter what's "authentic", what matters is the message being conveyed.
it does matter, just not to you, because you are shallow-minded and arrogant. the message conveyed is not one of longing, compassion, or feeling of being destitute. it is simply not believing in the revelation so she did not leave.
> but you don't need to know the story of Lot to understand what he's trying to say,
you are right. even though he is mistaken, his similitude is still coherent.
>It's fine to use the biblical story as a root of understanding (because that's what Vonnegut was referencing, so you might as well)
can you show where he says he uses the biblical story? because instead he is just referencing a historical event that occurred to a prophet of Islam that is recollected in other religions' texts.
> if people mistake her looking back for compassion instead of longing
bruh. there is compassion in longing, i just can't always grab my vocab.
>what's important is the concept that people shouldn't look back on things that are better left behind, but they do anyway.
alhamdulillah you should read the serenity prayer. |
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