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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder what would happen if someone left konr and talix trapped in a room for a while
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nirojan wrote:
i wonder what would happen if someone left konr and talix trapped in a room for a while

he's probably go on a psychotic break and commit jihad tbh fam
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nirojan wrote:
i wonder what would happen if someone left konr and talix trapped in a room for a while

he's probably go on a psychotic break and commit jihad tbh fam


derp you have no idea what jihad means.

@ hackotaku, i started reading, and then you started blatantly misrepresenting Muhammad salah Allahu alayhe wa salaam.
Aisha was 19.

you have 0 citations for your claims. i have given dozens. ergo, you are an incredulous FRAUD

> Because I should already know the ages of all the wives
maybe you should know the age of the wives at all if you're going to claim anything???

> I am "ignorant" of all the ages of his wives

WOW! thank you for retracting your previous claim and admitting it was made in the shadow of your own willful ignorance!

> You made a mistake and that mistake caused confusion, don't try to pass the buck to that being somehow my fault
the fault is that you made a claim in error based on ignorance -- in your own admittance -- and you, if dutifully, knew of any of the facts behind the truth of the subject you are making claims of, you would see that it is indeed your fault for not noticing my error, and stooping to confusion instead of reliance on /FACT/ instead of your BIGOTED UNFACTUAL SLURS.

>I only mentioned the fact of a younger wife because I know he had a very young one.
well, given that a wife can only be a /woman/, and that 9 is not a /woman/, and that his youngest was /19/ at consummation, which is probably about the age you got married. so are you accusing yourself of being a child fucker??

>Claiming his youngest wife is 17 is just a straight up lie though
no, it isn't. it is cited under numerous sources and you have zero reliable citations whatsoever and you are completely unfamiliar with al-Buhkari.

>Why does it seem you are incapable of having discussions without resorting to blatant insults to character?
do you want to count the insults you made? Rhetorical question, of course, you gave me one in the next sentence.

>Nice ad homs bro.
please show any because i used none. you have again shown your ignorance l0l

>Anyway, keep talking shit instead of actually making any points.
>His youngest wife was at least 4 years her senior
herp there is at least one. and all of your "points" have been blown out of the fucking water, as shown.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lmao Talix, you are just acting pathetic now. Literally non-existent "citation" of which you have dozens? Claiming she's 19 now when before she was 17, but actually she was a 6 year old girl. You are lying about your own religion, where are your "citations" that are so valuable to you? Not even going to bother addressing the rest of your post because it's so fucking asinine. Also:

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Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.


From http://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/120

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The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or Six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old.


From http://sunnah.com/abudawud/12/76
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah you have no citations it is evident fallacy fallacy fallacy ignorant 0 citations wives can only be a WOMAN dumbass XD checkmate
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nah you have no citations it is evident fallacy fallacy fallacy ignorant 0 citations wives can only be a WOMAN dumbass XD checkmate
I'm waiting on this or some apologist who claims that she's actually older even though it goes directly against what their "authentic " books say. Of course, he wouldn't be a true muslim if he said that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

already covered and debunked your claims, as have millions of others. really showing your foothold at the moment. she was ~15 in badr hurr durr
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The kid is a dick head. At this point I just want to make fun of how much of a dick head he really is. An actual discussion is pointless when in one breath he tells me I am in the wrong for a post I made being out of context when he didn't read the thread and in another saying he is correct and you are wrong when he makes a mistake and you literally read what he says correctly fully in context. It's insane how fucking delusional this retard is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
The kid is a dick head. At this point I just want to make fun of how much of a dick head he really is. An actual discussion is pointless when in one breath he tells me I am in the wrong for a post I made being out of context when he didn't read the thread and in another saying he is correct and you are wrong when he makes a mistake and you literally read what he says correctly fully in context. It's insane how fucking delusional this retard is.
Right? it's just sad now. His process of "debunking " is saying "I'm right" without any context.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
The kid is a dick head. At this point I just want to make fun of how much of a dick head he really is. An actual discussion is pointless when in one breath he tells me I am in the wrong for a post I made being out of context when he didn't read the thread and in another saying he is correct and you are wrong when he makes a mistake and you literally read what he says correctly fully in context. It's insane how fucking delusional this retard is.


false analogy, way to be arrogant. the fact that neither of you can give a legitimate rebuttal with any substance and can only accept what is glaringly an obvious error -- and instead of having the maturity to handle that error or to admit your own fault -- you continue your childishness and brandish your haughty ignorance. it is sad. very sad.

the reasoning why is obvious, though. you can't offer an actual rebuttal with substance because you never had any substance to stand on. that's why the only thing you COULD stand on was misinformation and a TYPO!!! lol!


HackOtaku wrote:
konr wrote:
Nah you have no citations it is evident fallacy fallacy fallacy ignorant 0 citations wives can only be a WOMAN dumbass XD checkmate
I'm waiting on this or some apologist who claims that she's actually older even though it goes directly against what their "authentic " books say. Of course, he wouldn't be a true muslim if he said that.


except it doesn't. you have never read any of our authentic books, and you have no idea what the fuck a hadith is. sufficient between me and you, for the person of knowledge, is the knowledge of the scripture itself; as it is more than enough to blow you out of the water. as is always the case.


and as for claiming my standard is that i'm always right, unfortunately, this is more of your incapacity to ever verify, validate, or reason any piece of information (as demonstrated and admitted by you). it is no surprise that someone who never supplies any information, resources any correct information, or has any idea of the subject of discussion, that they will frequently make mistakes, as is always the case with you.

when it comes to someone who is knowledgeable, i have never debated with them except that i won the debate, and as you are noticing, when it comes to debate with a person of ignorance (such as yourself), except that i lost.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what you're saying is "I'm right, you're wrong, because I'm right?" How about backing yourself up with logic and reason instead of saying "you don't know ".
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HackOtaku wrote:
So what you're saying is "I'm right, you're wrong, because I'm right?" How about backing yourself up with logic and reason instead of saying "you don't know ".


already did. good job doing exactly as i said.

and good job continuing to misrepresent others. i guess you're just autistic. i wouldn't want to be married to someone who didn't understand the individuality of others, either.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow lmfao that's funny as shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow lmfao that's funny as shit.


yeah it's really surprising tbh. everyone i know here has a gun on them all the time. the one person without a gun.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
So what you're saying is "I'm right, you're wrong, because I'm right?" How about backing yourself up with logic and reason instead of saying "you don't know ".


already did. good job doing exactly as i said.

and good job continuing to misrepresent others. i guess you're just autistic. i wouldn't want to be married to someone who didn't understand the individuality of others, either.
lmfao. You don't provide any points, you don't attempt to prove yourself, you can't formulate proper arguments so you settle for personal attacks instead. Where did you "already " back yourself up? All I see you doing is saying you know what is right without providing any "citations ", meanwhile I am saying what your books are saying about this dude's life as my argument, which you say is wrong without offering anything tangible. I'm inclined to think you're just trolling, but its likely you're just autistic/"neurodivergent".
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