HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:39 am Post subject:
greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
greatsage wrote:
Lol literally went on to prove my qur'an right. Good job.
You have simply no understanding. The ones dismissing have never read scripture. And they plainly illustrate their mistakes to the believer who reasons.
Luke 11:18-20 wrote:
If Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul. And if I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? So they will be your judges.
But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
It is plainly clear by scripture & by the video that the entirety of the Djinn's revelations, treatment, capture, conversion, and exorcism was done by the power of Allah, not by the power of any magician.
It is therefore plain by your words you have not watched the film. Terrifically, you decide to dismiss something before you have any understanding, or even any true witness.
A real ad populum would be to discriminate against your opinion due to you being in the minority with your opinion on this video's validity. But instead you provided more than enough to show your invalid reasonings and conclusions;
Tl;Dr your argument is invalid, every one of them.
I watched some of the video, not all 20 minutes because it was too cringe for me, but come on. "Power of Allah", please. This is just typical delusional people being delusional. It's like those people who pass out in church because they're just so overwhelmed by "His" spirit. At best this guy is just delusional as hell, at worst he's a charlatan and a con artist.
But whatever, you're too far gone. Enjoy watching your youtube videos of fat magicians singing annoying chants and your low rate thought control book.
You literally couldn't pay me to listen to that shit ^ I have not heard a word from those tapes and I don't want to.
The Church confirms each case of possession before an exorcism is done.
I capitalized the C for a reason because there is a very big beurocratic process involved, and there is a large range of exorcists.
The Church obviously isn't involved when a sheikh is. I have no idea what process is used by the Ummah. But these people do not do anything but tell the truth. Con artistry on these matters results in death, his actions are confirmed and there are deliberate, blatant cases of sorcery solved by this man and many like him. Why else would someone near death pop out of bed and a doctor call him to ask what he did? Because even the doctor knows there is more to it, and do you think he knows so much he can sense when a knot is untied? Or worse, that his patient would be near death over a knot he missed, nowhere to do with his body?
Pls.
You are only fooling yourself.
I chalk it up to ignorance towards mental disorders and mistreatment of a severely mentally disabled person, and the courts agree that this is true. Please don't try to use the girl the fucking exorcist is based off of for reasons to believe in demons, because it's just bad medicine.
I'm not really interested in talking about the fat magician anymore, you know how I feel about that nonsense.
Lol literally went on to prove my qur'an right. Good job.
You have simply no understanding. The ones dismissing have never read scripture. And they plainly illustrate their mistakes to the believer who reasons.
Luke 11:18-20 wrote:
If Satan also is divided against himself, how will his kingdom stand? For you say that I cast out demons by Beelzebul. And if I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? So they will be your judges.
But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
It is plainly clear by scripture & by the video that the entirety of the Djinn's revelations, treatment, capture, conversion, and exorcism was done by the power of Allah, not by the power of any magician.
It is therefore plain by your words you have not watched the film. Terrifically, you decide to dismiss something before you have any understanding, or even any true witness.
A real ad populum would be to discriminate against your opinion due to you being in the minority with your opinion on this video's validity. But instead you provided more than enough to show your invalid reasonings and conclusions;
Tl;Dr your argument is invalid, every one of them.
I watched some of the video, not all 20 minutes because it was too cringe for me, but come on. "Power of Allah", please. This is just typical delusional people being delusional. It's like those people who pass out in church because they're just so overwhelmed by "His" spirit. At best this guy is just delusional as hell, at worst he's a charlatan and a con artist.
But whatever, you're too far gone. Enjoy watching your youtube videos of fat magicians singing annoying chants and your low rate thought control book.
You literally couldn't pay me to listen to that shit ^ I have not heard a word from those tapes and I don't want to.
The Church confirms each case of possession before an exorcism is done.
I capitalized the C for a reason because there is a very big beurocratic process involved, and there is a large range of exorcists.
The Church obviously isn't involved when a sheikh is. I have no idea what process is used by the Ummah. But these people do not do anything but tell the truth. Con artistry on these matters results in death, his actions are confirmed and there are deliberate, blatant cases of sorcery solved by this man and many like him. Why else would someone near death pop out of bed and a doctor call him to ask what he did? Because even the doctor knows there is more to it, and do you think he knows so much he can sense when a knot is untied? Or worse, that his patient would be near death over a knot he missed, nowhere to do with his body?
Pls.
You are only fooling yourself.
I chalk it up to ignorance towards mental disorders and mistreatment of a severely mentally disabled person, and the courts agree that this is true. Please don't try to use the girl the fucking exorcist is based off of for reasons to believe in demons, because it's just bad medicine.
I'm not really interested in talking about the fat magician anymore, you know how I feel about that nonsense.
>implying the court decides what is true
>implying the court listened to the tapes and didn't just dismiss them and every bit of evidence as you are
>there is nothing about this case that points to mental illness
>and I am speaking from research
>whereas you are speaking from ignorance
I may be misremembering but I'm pretty sure of the thousands of hours of tapes only hardly anything was presented as evidence.
She was prescribed a antipsychotics and years of psychiatry did nothing.
Antipsychotics usually prevent you from levitating. They also have nothing to do with rosary levitating out of a room.
You should understand why rosary should never levitate.
If you are so convinced this is all untruth and misdirection, just fuck off, you will literally change zero of my mind or of any believer's mind.
In fact, you should prove it to yourself it is untrue.
Go grab a copy of the ars goetia and then make yourself one of the stupid fucks that is literally one of the tens of thousands a /single/ exorcist deals with in their career.
HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:06 am Post subject:
Ohhhh, I get it, there's zero chance that you're wrong, clearly everyone else is just ignorant.
You show me some proof that demons are real and I'll believe you, but demons are a fucking big claim, and I'm going to need more than mentally disturbed people yelling if I'm going to believe it. Show me evidence that she "levitated", and I might believe you, but I need more than a shitty audio recording of a poor, mistreated psyche patient, and more than the testimony of a phony "exorcist" who needs people to believe in that shit for his job.
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>There is nothing about this case that points the mental illness
Oh yeah, the sounds she was making sounds like someone who is definitely all together upstairs. (/s) I think it's more ignorant to look at something that's strange and say "Oh, yeah, that's probably the work of demons, bring in the holy man!" It's reflective of a time when ignorance prevailed, especially in a case from the 1950's when mental health wasn't near as well understood.
You tell me I should prove it to myself as untrue, but why does that burden fall on me? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Prove to me that this is the work of demons instead of the work of ignorant quackery and I'd be interested to hear you out. I'm not going to read "this girl was possessed by a demon!", accept it as fact, and then try to prove she wasn't one, because I think it's completely silly to think that it was even that case to begin with.
Also, lol, "if you think this is all bullshit, fuck off and let me live in my delusions." Okay kid, enjoy thinking there's such a thing as evil spirits and possessed little girls, and men of faith who are fighting some invisible holy war. Glad science and information has come this far only to have people regress back into explaining mysteries as "demons". It's like when they said lightning was God striking the Earth, just ignorance explaining the world as best it can. Have fun believing in silly nonsense like exorcisms, and be sure to get yourself checked for demons every 6 months.
Ohhhh, I get it, there's zero chance that you're wrong, clearly everyone else is just ignorant.
You show me some proof that demons are real and I'll believe you, but demons are a fucking big claim, and I'm going to need more than mentally disturbed people yelling if I'm going to believe it. Show me evidence that she "levitated", and I might believe you, but I need more than a shitty audio recording of a poor, mistreated psyche patient, and more than the testimony of a phony "exorcist" who needs people to believe in that shit for his job.
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>There is nothing about this case that points the mental illness
Oh yeah, the sounds she was making sounds like someone who is definitely all together upstairs. (/s) I think it's more ignorant to look at something that's strange and say "Oh, yeah, that's probably the work of demons, bring in the holy man!" It's reflective of a time when ignorance prevailed, especially in a case from the 1950's when mental health wasn't near as well understood.
You tell me I should prove it to myself as untrue, but why does that burden fall on me? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Prove to me that this is the work of demons instead of the work of ignorant quackery and I'd be interested to hear you out. I'm not going to read "this girl was possessed by a demon!", accept it as fact, and then try to prove she wasn't one, because I think it's completely silly to think that it was even that case to begin with.
Also, lol, "if you think this is all bullshit, fuck off and let me live in my delusions." Okay kid, enjoy thinking there's such a thing as evil spirits and possessed little girls, and men of faith who are fighting some invisible holy war. Glad science and information has come this far only to have people regress back into explaining mysteries as "demons". It's like when they said lightning was God striking the Earth, just ignorance explaining the world as best it can. Have fun believing in silly nonsense like exorcisms, and be sure to get yourself checked for demons every 6 months.
Stopped reading after the second sentence or so because you started by deliberately misrepresenting me, again, so I wasn't going to bother when I knew the rest of your post would definitely be of the same consistency: shit
That's why you ignored the evidence I have given you, which is ample supplication.
HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:26 am Post subject:
Ignored the evidence? I watched your screaming girls, and I still don't think it's the work of demons, but since I don't agree with you, clearly I just ignored it right? Because anyone who saw that nonsense would be convinced it was a demon, right? Is that really all it takes to convince you? No wonder you believe the shit you do.
Ignored the evidence? I watched your screaming girls, and I still don't think it's the work of demons, but since I don't agree with you, clearly I just ignored it right? Because anyone who saw that nonsense would be convinced it was a demon, right? Is that really all it takes to convince you? No wonder you believe the shit you do.
and more misrepresentation not surprised bby, how mad you are is written all over
HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:20 pm Post subject:
greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
Ignored the evidence? I watched your screaming girls, and I still don't think it's the work of demons, but since I don't agree with you, clearly I just ignored it right? Because anyone who saw that nonsense would be convinced it was a demon, right? Is that really all it takes to convince you? No wonder you believe the shit you do.
and more misrepresentation not surprised bby, how mad you are is written all over
HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic Reputation: 81
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:32 am Post subject:
greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
greatsage wrote:
HackOtaku wrote:
greatsage wrote:
TheIndianGuy wrote:
michael jackson wrote:
ya'll ignant
HackOtaku wrote:
Then how have I ignored the evidence?
after the removal of my conscience i may be better equipped to answer this question.
context: you can't back your shit up.
more and more intentional misrepresentation
More and more avoidance of the topic because you're in a corner
nope, you are the one avoiding the evidence. you have supplied nothing to avoid lol
okay, since you are dense, my question that you are avoiding: how am I ignoring the evidence if i have viewed it and disagree with believing that demons had anything to do with it?
after the removal of my conscience i may be better equipped to answer this question.
context: you can't back your shit up.
more and more intentional misrepresentation
More and more avoidance of the topic because you're in a corner
nope, you are the one avoiding the evidence. you have supplied nothing to avoid lol
okay, since you are dense, my question that you are avoiding: how am I ignoring the evidence if i have viewed it and disagree with believing that demons had anything to do with it?
Still waiting to hear back from you.
>dismissing evidence means you have critically analysed it
>still hasn't properly investigated and analysed all evidence
when someone points you to a tape do you dismiss everything on it before it approaches a cassette player?
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