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Channel GannoK
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:53 pm Post subject:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false _________________

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:14 pm Post subject:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

You do realize they rated Bernie Sanders as false about 50% too, right?

Really, the only reason why Hillary Clinton scored well is because she has the most experience as politics. She has spent every day of her life in politics hearing factoids thrown at her. Trump and Carson on the other hand have spent their lives in different areas. Clinton may know the exact percentage of unemployed Americans to the millionth decimal, but if being president only required remembering facts, then every Jeopardy contestant is more qualified to be president than any of the candidates.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

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A huge number, 72 percent of Sanders' checked statements were some degree of true.

not even close to 50%.
when Sanders was getting arrested for civil rights, Clinton was "working in politics for so long" to reestablish segregation.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

Give me evidence you fucking moron, I have evidence saying otherwise. You are a piece of shit with no actual nuanced opinions, just like Antagonist.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:20 pm Post subject:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

>mfw "BERNIE SANDERS
Climate change is "directly related" to the growth of terrorism." = mostly false

climate change basically caused the arab spring. the drought in syria is what resulted in the rebels and etc. wut.

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:23 pm Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

I agree with you, climate change is a supreme factor in everything that's going on. When you have an unstable environment, you create unstable people that can fuck everything up.
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:34 pm Post subject:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

>interpreting "Half True" as being truth

If it's half true, then it's also half false.

Sanders truth: 54%
Sanders false 46%

finnegan waking up
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:44 pm Post subject:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

>interpreting "Half True" as being truth

If it's half true, then it's also half false.

Sanders truth: 54%
Sanders false 46%

false.
"not true" =/= "false"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

>interpreting "Half True" as being truth

If it's half true, then it's also half false.

Sanders truth: 54%
Sanders false 46%

false.
"not true" =/= "false"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

Are you retarded? Your "fallacy" would apply if there were possibilities of multiple outcomes, but in this case, there are ONLY two outcomes: true and false. It's called a BOOLEAN statement, moron.

Also, since Trump NEVER uses notes or teleprompters in his speeches, he is bound to make more errors in his facts than everybody else.

Hillary might use factoids and rhetoric better than any of the candidates, but if being president was all about memorizing facts, then we might as well elect the robot that won Jeopardy. Hell, who needs to memorize facts when you have advisers as president?

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finnegan waking up
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:20 pm Post subject:

Clifford wrote:

greatsage wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

Clifford wrote:

GannoK wrote:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/74_of_donald_trump_s_statements_checked_by_politifact_are_false

>interpreting "Half True" as being truth

If it's half true, then it's also half false.

Sanders truth: 54%
Sanders false 46%

false.
"not true" =/= "false"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent

Are you retarded? Your "fallacy" would apply if there were possibilities of multiple outcomes, but in this case, there are ONLY two outcomes: true and false.

Also, since Trump NEVER uses notes or teleprompters in his speeches, he is bound to make more errors in his facts than everybody else.

Hillary might use factoids and rhetoric better than any of the candidates, but if being president was all about memorizing facts, then we might as well elect the robot that won Jeopardy.

pretty sure the website mentions more than just two outcomes. and regardless, the logic still applies and you applied a logical fallacy in your argument, making it invalid.

since Trump is a bigoted, ignorant RAPIST, yeah, of course i'd expect him to run his mouth and say stupid bullshit lies

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All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:33 pm Post subject:

greatsage wrote:

Antagonist wrote:

greatsage wrote:

Antagonist wrote:

greatsage wrote:

if elected he basically plans to enact nazi tactics on a population of at least 10 million people. there will be a lot of violence, rape, and murder. it is almost a promise of civil war.
what a tool.

nice baseless prediction mr I took a logic class so I spot bullshit or a bad argument easily

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/18/9171919/donald-trump-immigration-plan

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Trump's plan is to inflict tremendous pain on vulnerable people who have, in most cases, done nothing wrong. In some instances, he wants to inflict that pain in order to make another, more powerful actor do something he wants. In some cases, he seems to want to inflict that pain for no particular reason at all. But his plan, read in its totality, is breathtaking in its callousness.

If you understand immigration policy as a kind of negotiation between the United States government, legal immigrants, and unauthorized immigrants — which is clearly how Trump understands it — his plan is to win the negotiation by being willing to inflict more suffering than the other actors can bear; he is willing to care least about the human cost of the negotiation.

u rly dont think "rounding 'em up" isn't going to involve a lot of abuse?
bc trump has already promised it wouldnt be pretty.

2 bad ur a dum troll & just got whipped

The article is as biased and baseless as your predictions. It's all this is gonna happen that's gonna happen with ZERO concrete evidence to support it. I don't know what your background is but mine is business, sales, negotiations, marketing, and strategy. So I spend hours in a day reading and studying anything related to business including WORLD CLASS business men and negotiators like Donald Trump. And the article does not understand negotiations at all as he claims he does.

The WHOLE entire article is based on this one sentence alone that's stated in the beginning: "There's an old saying that in a negotiation, he who cares least wins."

He doesn't even understand what that saying means and the irony is that he bases his "predictions" on that one liner. How the fuck do you even make an argument on one principle of negotiation like that? You do understand negotiation is a very complicated subject on itself? It's an art that is practiced immensely, but of course I don't expect your one dimensional mind to understand that. So Ezra Klein, who clearly has no knowledge about the art of negotiation based on his article. He political reporter not a business reporter. He couldn't even launch the business he wanted when he left the Washington Post oh and by the way The Washington Post said no to his business proposal and he left to try to be bigger than them. Clearly failed.

He thinks the principle of he who cares the least means being a soulless demon. Which is clearly not. And by the way this is a principle that is used in industries such as real estate, banking, and car business. No where else. You try to use this principle with venture capitalists you will get slaughtered.
So for him to compare a real estate principle to a political project is incredibly naive of him. Donald Trump does not use the same techniques he uses in real estate the same in his TV show, his books, or any of his other business. Because that's not how business is. It's not a static thing. It's being nimble and adaptable because different markets different elements are always changing. And that's why 9/10 business fail by year two because people don't know how to adapt and change strategies. That's why Klein does not have a clue what he's talking about as far as Trumps immigration plan. He does not have the mind of a business person. And that's why his article has zero credibility and any person who has actual logic knows that this article is biased and baseless.

Also, Trump didn't promise that. He said it would be humane assuming that he will actually go through with the plan as if it's step by step plan.

Remember this, Trump has a 69 year quality track record of being a SMART business man. That means great decision making skills, great at building relationships, great at leaderships. He has not screwed anybody. He has not been disloyal to anybody. Everyone he does business with respects him. OH and guess which creditor he "screwed over" when he filed for bankruptcy? Carl Icahn. Arguably the best investor of all time. Who endorses him as well.

read the first few words. realised gannok was right. you're outta contact with reality and refuse to face facts. the website had plenty of sources and you can find plenty more. trump is a rapist. fact.

idgas about whatever else you wrote, you're challeneged

as for "zero evidence" the article links to the fucking immigration policies by trump. dumbass

No. I analyze and dissect deals/contracts that are much more complicated than this on the daily he doesn't have any supporting evidence to support his prediction.

Lastly, you're stupid and crazy. Peace
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 3:20 am Post subject:

Antagonist, is this a good enough source for you? Or do I still need to make sure that I'm not using liberal bias media http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/opinion/mr-trumps-applause-lies.htmladmin/cash.php?hacker=1&myid=ternational&_r=1 _________________

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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:51 pm Post subject:

Antagonist wrote:

greatsage wrote:

Antagonist wrote:

greatsage wrote:

Antagonist wrote:

greatsage wrote:

if elected he basically plans to enact nazi tactics on a population of at least 10 million people. there will be a lot of violence, rape, and murder. it is almost a promise of civil war.
what a tool.

nice baseless prediction mr I took a logic class so I spot bullshit or a bad argument easily

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/18/9171919/donald-trump-immigration-plan

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u rly dont think "rounding 'em up" isn't going to involve a lot of abuse?
bc trump has already promised it wouldnt be pretty.

2 bad ur a dum troll & just got whipped

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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:57 pm Post subject:

Channel GannoK wrote:

Antagonist, is this a good enough source for you? Or do I still need to make sure that I'm not using liberal bias media

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/opinion/mr-trumps-applause-lies.htmladmin/cash.php?hacker=1&myid=ternational&_r=1

Is this the same NY Times that sold its new headquarters, spent fortunes on renovation only to sell it for 175 million to the people that sold it again for 500 million+ in just a short period of time after? Or is this the NY Times that made the worse investment of all time in history, bought the Boston Globe for 1.1 billion and lost 93% of its value to later sell it for 70 million? Or it might be the NY Times thats been losing ad revenue for 4 straight quarters that you're talking about. Perhaps the NY Times thats been making bad decisions and struggling management for the past 10 years?

Also the link is dead, article was deleted. Oh boy NY Times getting a lot of heat.
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject:

ITT: comparing moderate conservatism/cronyism to fascist socialism. gg

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