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gogodr I post too much
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| Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | People who say that it doesnt:
It was not rape if no one saw it happen. | but 2 people witness rape no matter what, the victim and the rapist, or at least 1 if the victim is passed out or whatever.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not |
Bill Cosby disagrees. | Is bill cosby a scientist or a doctor or any part of the law? no he's a comedian and his opinion is worthless |
Jokes aside.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not
yes, but people who don't even bother to look at a 5 minutes video on quantum physics think of the only 2 possible outcomes.
hence the stupidity of saying that just because no one observed a tree fall is enough to say that it didn't.
That's just plain stupid.
My guess is that the dilemma came to life because of how electrons behave.
At a certain sample an electron can have a certain spin state, but while it is not being sampled, we can't know which spin state it has, (an Spin is either "up" or "down") thus we call that state of spin "both".
Back to the tree thing. Saying that while not observed the tree didn't fall would mean that it is in the "down" state rather than in the "both".
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HitIer How do I cheat?
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | People who say that it doesnt:
It was not rape if no one saw it happen. | but 2 people witness rape no matter what, the victim and the rapist, or at least 1 if the victim is passed out or whatever.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not |
Bill Cosby disagrees. | Is bill cosby a scientist or a doctor or any part of the law? no he's a comedian and his opinion is worthless |
He has the authority of a rapist
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HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | People who say that it doesnt:
It was not rape if no one saw it happen. | but 2 people witness rape no matter what, the victim and the rapist, or at least 1 if the victim is passed out or whatever.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not |
Bill Cosby disagrees. | Is bill cosby a scientist or a doctor or any part of the law? no he's a comedian and his opinion is worthless |
Jokes aside.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not
yes, but people who don't even bother to look at a 5 minutes video on quantum physics think of the only 2 possible outcomes.
hence the stupidity of saying that just because no one observed a tree fall is enough to say that it didn't.
That's just plain stupid.
My guess is that the dilemma came to life because of how electrons behave.
At a certain sample an electron can have a certain spin state, but while it is not being sampled, we can't know which spin state it has, (an Spin is either "up" or "down") thus we call that state of spin "both".
Back to the tree thing. Saying that while not observed the tree didn't fall would mean that it is in the "down" state rather than in the "both". | The tree fell, but with nothing to "hold" the sound of the tree, does that sound even/ever exist? Personally, I think the question is one of those stupid, seems-smarter-than-it-is type of deals. IMO, the answer is yes, because things behave predictably in the macro world, and there's no reason to suppose that sound needs a listener to be produced. The vibrations from the event will travel out just as you'd expect.
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gogodr I post too much
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | People who say that it doesnt:
It was not rape if no one saw it happen. | but 2 people witness rape no matter what, the victim and the rapist, or at least 1 if the victim is passed out or whatever.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not |
Bill Cosby disagrees. | Is bill cosby a scientist or a doctor or any part of the law? no he's a comedian and his opinion is worthless |
Jokes aside.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not
yes, but people who don't even bother to look at a 5 minutes video on quantum physics think of the only 2 possible outcomes.
hence the stupidity of saying that just because no one observed a tree fall is enough to say that it didn't.
That's just plain stupid.
My guess is that the dilemma came to life because of how electrons behave.
At a certain sample an electron can have a certain spin state, but while it is not being sampled, we can't know which spin state it has, (an Spin is either "up" or "down") thus we call that state of spin "both".
Back to the tree thing. Saying that while not observed the tree didn't fall would mean that it is in the "down" state rather than in the "both". | The tree fell, but with nothing to "hold" the sound of the tree, does that sound even/ever exist? Personally, I think the question is one of those stupid, seems-smarter-than-it-is type of deals. IMO, the answer is yes, because things behave predictably in the macro world, and there's no reason to suppose that sound needs a listener to be produced. The vibrations from the event will travel out just as you'd expect. |
I'm going with this too.
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | Brolock wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | People who say that it doesnt:
It was not rape if no one saw it happen. | but 2 people witness rape no matter what, the victim and the rapist, or at least 1 if the victim is passed out or whatever.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not |
Bill Cosby disagrees. | Is bill cosby a scientist or a doctor or any part of the law? no he's a comedian and his opinion is worthless |
Jokes aside.
things act differently depending on whether they're being observed or not
yes, but people who don't even bother to look at a 5 minutes video on quantum physics think of the only 2 possible outcomes.
hence the stupidity of saying that just because no one observed a tree fall is enough to say that it didn't.
That's just plain stupid.
My guess is that the dilemma came to life because of how electrons behave.
At a certain sample an electron can have a certain spin state, but while it is not being sampled, we can't know which spin state it has, (an Spin is either "up" or "down") thus we call that state of spin "both".
Back to the tree thing. Saying that while not observed the tree didn't fall would mean that it is in the "down" state rather than in the "both". | The tree fell, but with nothing to "hold" the sound of the tree, does that sound even/ever exist? Personally, I think the question is one of those stupid, seems-smarter-than-it-is type of deals. IMO, the answer is yes, because things behave predictably in the macro world, and there's no reason to suppose that sound needs a listener to be produced. The vibrations from the event will travel out just as you'd expect. |
You are right but not for the right reasons
The answer is yes
The reason why you are wrong is because everything is observed or in your wording held
It may not be by your conscience but your existence witnesses them
Everything around the tree records the event be it sounds (vibrations), impact (force), and relativity.
A rock records every sound ever witnessed by it forever
Same as stars same as all life and existence
Now an interesting gray area is events that are made up like stories or books/films
Do they exist in their own existence because they were created or do they soley exist as penstrokes and sounds
In the end it doesn't matter but its interesting to ponder
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HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| Goomba wrote: | u guys r dumb
why even fight when unless its experienced by me, nothing happens at all.
I cant believe i got idiots still arguing | I don't honestly think you believe this, I just think you're an attention whore faking mental illness. Shut the fuck up.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | Goomba wrote: | u guys r dumb
why even fight when unless its experienced by me, nothing happens at all.
I cant believe i got idiots still arguing | I don't honestly think you believe this, I just think you're an attention whore faking mental illness. Shut the fuck up. | its pretty textbook psychosis if hes not faking it. he thinks hes god, thinks the popo be after him, and thinks hes better/smarter than everyone surrounding him. and i mean if he is faking then fuck him.
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HackOtaku I posted the 500000th topic
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ControlAltDelete wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | Goomba wrote: | u guys r dumb
why even fight when unless its experienced by me, nothing happens at all.
I cant believe i got idiots still arguing | I don't honestly think you believe this, I just think you're an attention whore faking mental illness. Shut the fuck up. | its pretty textbook psychosis if hes not faking it. he thinks hes god, thinks the popo be after him, and thinks hes better/smarter than everyone surrounding him. and i mean if he is faking then fuck him. | Too textbook.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| HackOtaku wrote: | | ControlAltDelete wrote: | | HackOtaku wrote: | | Goomba wrote: | u guys r dumb
why even fight when unless its experienced by me, nothing happens at all.
I cant believe i got idiots still arguing | I don't honestly think you believe this, I just think you're an attention whore faking mental illness. Shut the fuck up. | its pretty textbook psychosis if hes not faking it. he thinks hes god, thinks the popo be after him, and thinks hes better/smarter than everyone surrounding him. and i mean if he is faking then fuck him. | Too textbook. |
Yep... just making fun of those with actual mental health disorders.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah but you were typing as if you beleived you were god and posting psychotic babble here just the other day. You are normal average and nothing more, not even crazy. Just stupid and insensitive for mocking those with actual problems.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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you firmly believe you are jah ?
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finnegan waking up How do I cheat?
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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go to lawyer, get a cease and desist and press charges for harassment
they will back off
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:02 am Post subject: |
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U r retarded
You are suing them for wasting money when if you win will waste 50mcad of tax payers monies u gon lose kid
Yfw he thinks they are actually pursuing him and it turns out his neighbor gets busted as drug lord
And he comes to the realization that he's just aa dumb serb teen cunt that none cares aboot
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| Shrooms wrote: | | Eᅚᅚ wrote: | U r retarded
You are suing them for wasting money when if you win will waste 50mcad of tax payers monies u gon lose kid
Yfw he thinks they are actually pursuing him and it turns out his neighbor gets busted as drug lord
And he comes to the realization that he's just aa dumb serb teen cunt that none cares aboot |
mfw my theory is proven and this comment is evidence.
mfw this fucking nigger doesn't know I had to be interrograted as a terrorist in the newmarket police station.
mfw this fagt doesn't know that helicopters followed me for doing nothing.
mfw this fagt doesn't know that i am suing as this is harrassment.
i need ip logs of a few threads to further my case.
dw ill send u 100 bucks as i promoted u just now to king retard, worse than the retard named shit. lol. |
yfw you replying to me disputes everything you said
why would a god care what mortals think of it
exactly
wake up dumb serb person with a high concentration of pigment in his skin
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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did you have babbys first psychedelic trip or something recently?
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