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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i dunno man i just like getting trashed and religion is dumb in my personal opinion

good thing in my religion there is a god that is trashed 24/7 literally
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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konr wrote:
i dunno man i just like getting trashed and religion is dumb in my personal opinion

good thing in my religion there is a god that is trashed 24/7 literally
how does that even work that you'd believe something like that is a thing that is real
like that'd be cool and all but come on dude
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
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konr wrote:
i dunno man i just like getting trashed and religion is dumb in my personal opinion

good thing in my religion there is a god that is trashed 24/7 literally
how does that even work that you'd believe something like that is a thing that is real
like that'd be cool and all but come on dude

gods like pleasures too
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok now the angry brit is in, and the the fried junkie has has made it. Keep going at it m8s. Konr Let's see how much you think you understand about life and yourself, you elitist fuck. Just because you think I'm being "autistic," that doesn't verify anything, all it does is prove you have no filter and that you Immediately go to conclusions that that are preconceived, and based with no logic. You don't bother explaining why. This is just a basic philosophical conversation, and you come in trying to come off as the elitist you are. Gj asshole. Want a cookie?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok now the angry brit is in, and the the fried junkie has has made it. Keep going at it m8s. Konr Let's see how much you think you understand about life and yourself, you elitist fuck. Just because you think I'm being "autistic," that doesn't verify anything, all it does is prove you have no filter and that you Immediately go to conclusions that that are preconceived, and based with no logic. You don't bother explaining why. This is just a basic philosophical conversation, and you come in trying to come off as the elitist you are. Gj asshole. Want a cookie?


ad hominem fallacy. & your hasty generalization / stereotypes that fall in a similar category.
you have lost. congratulations.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok now the angry brit is in, and the the fried junkie has has made it. Keep going at it m8s. Konr Let's see how much you think you understand about life and yourself, you elitist fuck. Just because you think I'm being "autistic," that doesn't verify anything, all it does is prove you have no filter and that you Immediately go to conclusions that that are preconceived, and based with no logic. You don't bother explaining why. This is just a basic philosophical conversation, and you come in trying to come off as the elitist you are. Gj asshole. Want a cookie?
a couple years ago i would have explained but frankly i have better shit to do with my time now haha i realised how pointless it was ya know? if i'm gonna spend any time here i'm not gonna try to get my point across with any effort, especially not when brolock has already told you why you look retarded and every time i skim your little arguments you fail to even see that it isn't what you think that's the problem, it's that you're posting about it when no one fucking cares
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also kyle turns a blind eye to divine revelation i mentioned, nice cherry picking
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to mention nothing in the bible has been disproved yet, and they are still finding relevant things like the thousands of chariots and weapons and armor in the red sea where Moses had supposedly drown an army

Also Gannok you brought up slavery in the bible and said not to take it out of context but that is the very thing you did.

There is no racism in the bible lmao


I fear God, I believe God. As for every other part of religion and religions
i could care less about, and are as relevant to me as my own mortality
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ factually Incorrect

@talix you may be right, but there are better resources than the bible out in the world to gather your morals from. We can leave it in the past now. No more human indoctrination. We just need a larger crowd of atheists who care for eachother and respect the laws and ways of nature. Let minors have one extra choice and freedom here in America, allow them to say something to authorities if if they feel religion is a negative influence. It's ok to willfully listen to religion. It should be ok to be avoided as well. We are working towards a libertarian/democratic socialist state in America at least on the west coast, and when we finally get someone who is intellectually honest in the white house (Bernie Sanders) we may maybe able to send him our messages as a nation better. The past years have been a series of questionable decisions. Bernie is not even in that group of corrupt politicians paid by the Koch Brothers.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you say factually incorrect but prove it?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/slavery.html

Slavery and racism can go hand in hand, but our human network is trying to make us all slaves. Wage slaves.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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^ factually Incorrect

@talix you may be right, but there are better resources than the bible out in the world to gather your morals from. We can leave it in the past now. No more human indoctrination. We just need a larger crowd of atheists who care for eachother and respect the laws and ways of nature. Let minors have one extra choice and freedom here in America, allow them to say something to authorities if if they feel religion is a negative influence. It's ok to willfully listen to religion. It should be ok to be avoided as well. We are working towards a libertarian/democratic socialist state in America at least on the west coast, and when we finally get someone who is intellectually honest in the white house (Bernie Sanders) we may maybe able to send him our messages as a nation better. The past years have been a series of questionable decisions. Bernie is not even in that group of corrupt politicians paid by the Koch Brothers.


>ignores that atheism is indoctrination
>ignores so fucking much of religion and truths available that it physically hurts and ills me

>We just need a larger crowd of atheists
says who? we don't "need" that? wut. we need individuals capable of critical thinking, and those skills can be applied to the assessment and study of religion & theology; thus richer, educated, and potentially more moral (certainly happier and with more longevity, which comes with religion.)


>allow them to say something to authorities if if they feel religion is a negative influence
where the fuck have you been? so many people -- especially ignorant people -- protest islam all the time. freedom of speech is practiced in America. scientology protests have been heavily active, especially by the youth.

>you may be right, but there are better resources than the bible out in the world to gather your morals from
right about what, exactly? you are still glossing over a lot of what i have said. i also did not even mention morality. religious practice and study opens up more to the world and student/disciple/devotee than just morality, such as metaphysical thought, philosophy, community, charity, family, culture, welfare & food, life lessons, knowledge of self, knowledge of fundamentals of the world, discipline, etc. etc. etc.
you are an ostrich.

p.s. you are lacking in a lot of these ^
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had more motivating people and friends that I've talked to in my life than religion in whole. I've thought for myself and I understand that atheism is just a belief system, but in which this world we have to argue almost very daily nationally with the minded to get the point across. To be a secular is to also welcome the idea of agnosticism. For current objectivy in survival of our human species, let's not let religous fundamentalists dictate our lives and be the ones that represent us all, thats just illogical. Keep them in check and make sure we keep ourselves in check and that that we survive in this current reality we live in. We need to need to become secular, just like the constitution insists. Atheists will allow for this known idea to get across if if we just take the the small steps.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how is not believing in something indoctrination lmao
even if kyle is being a bit of a sperg that is dribble
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

konr wrote:
how is not believing in something indoctrination lmao
even if kyle is being a bit of a sperg that is dribble


you should study into buddhism and understand how beliefs lead to attachments and are born of attachment. which leads to suffering. views on god, or a belief in a lack of god, are still born out of suffering like many other things, and are equal convictions.

not to mention you can be religious (buddhist, hindu, etc.) and still be atheist -- in fact, many abrahamics will easily concede to knowledge and affirmation of existence of god is unknowable and that agnosticism or consideration of a lack of god simply comes with the territory and are normal thoughts.

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I've had more motivating people and friends that I've talked to in my life than religion in whole. I've thought for myself and I understand that atheism is just a belief system, but in which this world we have to argue almost very daily nationally with the minded to get the point across. To be a secular is to also welcome the idea of agnosticism. For current objectivy in survival of our human species, let's not let religous fundamentalists dictate our lives and be the ones that represent us all, thats just illogical. Keep them in check and make sure we keep ourselves in check and that that we survive in this current reality we live in. We need to need to become secular, just like the constitution insists. Atheists will allow for this known idea to get across if if we just take the the small steps.


yeah i liked those atheist communists, bolsheviks etc. the ones that would rape whole villages of girls and toss out religious iconography and other objects, then go out of their way to censor the news of said objects getting fed up and throwing off miracles left and right as a response. the brutal murders and destruction/thievery of property and mass starvation was a nice touch, too.

although religious folk are capable of and are responsible for atrocities too.
wait a second, that would almost mean that every group of people is equally horrible, regardless of their religious stance!
gasp, and to think the world would've almost never known.


"but in which this world we have to argue almost very daily nationally with the minded to get the point across."

no you fucking don't. what point? keep your unverifiable convictions to yourself, holy fuck, being an atheist does not require arguing or being a militant edgelord, you don't /HAVE/ to argue shit, and you /HAVE/ no point to get across.


"let's not let religous fundamentalists dictate our lives and be the ones that represent us all, thats just illogical."
idk obama believes in god, is president of usa, and still finds time to pray five times a day. so fuck you and your "illogical" shit, you haven't put forth any decent arguments and believe me, i've seen some decent anti-theist arguments with some meat on them. your bullshit consists of "me better and smarter, me deserve to run and control because me believe different about stuff". not to mention, you'd probably know that bernie sanders, whose circumcised dick you're sucking, is a Jew.
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