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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:13 am Post subject:

Yeah I installed Air for Steam as well after upgrading, pretty good theme, plus it fits well with the Windows 10 UI. _________________ ART https://no-guy.meme/

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:54 am Post subject:

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Brolock wrote:

black on gray + dark blue is so nice on the eyes tho
fuck red+black with bright white text

+1. Fucking hate all the sites, like Steam, that feature light text on dark backgrounds.

Really? I find Steam's interface/website to be very nice on the eyes.

Yes, really. It might be related to the mild astigmatism I developed in my twenties, but sites like that are really, really hard on my eyes. When WWW was a new thing and I was a young man, I thought black backgrounds looked cool, but now I find it painful and immature.

Tim Hong on Stack Exchange wrote:

However, most studies have shown that dark characters on a light background are superior to light characters on a dark background (when the refresh rate is fairly high). For example, Bauer and Cavonius (1980) found that participants were 26% more accurate in reading text when they read it with dark characters on a light background.

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Reference: Bauer, D., & Cavonius, C., R. (1980). Improving the legibility of visual display units through contrast reversal. In E. Grandjean, E. Vigliani (Eds.), Ergonomic Aspects of Visual Display Terminals (pp. 137-142). London: Taylor & Francis Ok, 26% improvement – but why?

People with astigmatism (aproximately 50% of the population) find it harder to read white text on black than black text on white. Part of this has to do with light levels: with a bright display (white background) the iris closes a bit more, decreasing the effect of the "deformed" lens; with a dark display (black background) the iris opens to receive more light and the deformation of the lens creates a much fuzzier focus at the eye.

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Jason Harrison – Post Doctoral Fellow, Imager Lab Manager – Sensory Perception and Interaction Research Group, University of British Columbia The "fuzzing” effect that Jason refers to is known as halation.

It might feel strange pushing your primary design goals based on the vision impaired, but when 50% of the population of have this “impairment” it’s actually closer to being the norm than an impairment.

The web is rife with research on the topic, but I think these two quotes provide a succinct justification for why light text on a dark background is a bad idea.

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:48 am Post subject:

well i don't have any astigmatisms and quite enjoy a dark background

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:40 pm Post subject:

i have astigmatism and i dont find steam very hard to use. oof course, i only wear my glasses when im at school though
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject:

I can get around the interface fine, but if I try to read extended text (a lengthy review or a changelog, for example) I see afterimages after a paragraph and have actual pain after a page or two. You guys all have the benefit of young eyes, but give it a few years.... _________________ A nagy kapu mellett, mindig van egy kis kapu. ---------------------- Come on...

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:12 pm Post subject:

justa_dude wrote:

I can get around the interface fine, but if I try to read extended text (a lengthy review or a changelog, for example) I see afterimages after a paragraph and have actual pain after a page or two. You guys all have the benefit of young eyes, but give it a few years....

How old are you?
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:08 pm Post subject:

justa_dude wrote:

I had cataract surgery last year, so I know how this feels...

Dark backgrounds with light foreground was the only thing tolerable for me for the longest time, that's why I created that skin in the first place.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:19 pm Post subject:

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Wow. I'm surprised on multiple levels. Sorry. Did they do full lens replacement? Do you have nearly perfect vision now? Do you see halos when driving/etc? Did they only use local anesthesia, then force you to stay awake as they scraped off the top layer of your eyeballs?
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:29 pm Post subject:

justa_dude wrote:

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Yep, full replacement. I just have the basic lens, which was the only one my insurance covered. I was "consciously sedated". Basically, I was passed out, but faded in and out of consciousness. Unfortunately, they performed on each eye at different dates because my insurance would only over it like that.

While my overall vision is much better, halos are actually MUCH worse now, especially when my pupils expand. I need to go back after I meet my deductible with my insurance company.

I now wear bifocals because I lost the ability to focus up close, which is really hard to get used to.

These are what I took after the procedure (blurred out some private info, of course)

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:21 pm Post subject:

@Justa pro tip copy the review and paste it into word or something

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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 12:17 am Post subject:

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lol benji never forget

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:59 pm Post subject:

Lol , this thread isnt Even about the Title. :P
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