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| BreakinGods wrote: | | (dib1500) wrote: | | That homeless dude ate off that guys face in miami or something was high on marijuana. Marijuana makes you go crazy. |
That was obviously an isolated incident that was made into propaganda to keep weed from being legalized, and they said synthetic cannabis if I'm not mistaken.
Another HUGE point I forgot to make is that alcohol is also physically addictive. My parents were both alcoholics, so I know the effects it has on society with all the domestic violence growing up. Weed doesn't make you throw up if you do it a lot and feel terrible to the stomach, black out and have sex with someone you don't want to, and it can be pretty hard to tell if someone is high on weed if they use eye drops and are use to the effects, so they can still get stuff done in a professional environment. |
You must not smoke enough then. I've thrown up, definitely felt sick multiple times, I've not blacked out though.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:33 am Post subject: |
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| BreakinGods wrote: | | (dib1500) wrote: | | That homeless dude ate off that guys face in miami or something was high on marijuana. Marijuana makes you go crazy. |
That was obviously an isolated incident that was made into propaganda to keep weed from being legalized, and they said synthetic cannabis if I'm not mistaken.
Another HUGE point I forgot to make is that alcohol is also physically addictive. My parents were both alcoholics, so I know the effects it has on society with all the domestic violence growing up. Weed doesn't make you throw up if you do it a lot and feel terrible to the stomach, black out and have sex with someone you don't want to, and it can be pretty hard to tell if someone is high on weed if they use eye drops and are use to the effects, so they can still get stuff done in a professional environment. |
This has to be the stupidest post you've made on rs yet
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Euphorical wrote: | | BreakinGods wrote: | | (dib1500) wrote: | | That homeless dude ate off that guys face in miami or something was high on marijuana. Marijuana makes you go crazy. |
That was obviously an isolated incident that was made into propaganda to keep weed from being legalized, and they said synthetic cannabis if I'm not mistaken.
Another HUGE point I forgot to make is that alcohol is also physically addictive. My parents were both alcoholics, so I know the effects it has on society with all the domestic violence growing up. Weed doesn't make you throw up if you do it a lot and feel terrible to the stomach, black out and have sex with someone you don't want to, and it can be pretty hard to tell if someone is high on weed if they use eye drops and are use to the effects, so they can still get stuff done in a professional environment. |
This has to be the stupidest post you've made on rs yet |
You've obviously picked your side of the argument then, but everything I said was true and logical. You're probably an alcoholic that's why you're butthurt.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| My side of the argument is neither they are the same unless abused they poise no threat or harm to society
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| BreakinGods wrote: | Google asks people questions now?
Also this shouldn't even be marijuana alcohol is being compared to because it's actually being used to help society with the amount of people able to get such strong benefits from it. Alcohol is just literally a poison, but you don't see people trying to end it like they want to end cigarettes. I get a lot of creative energy when I smoke, have a more regulated sleep schedule, eat less overall (I may still binge on the comedown, but my appetite is more suppressed while high), and it really helps me deal with my anxiety. The main problem with it is that it just costs too much. |
alcohol is fine in small moderate amounts. There are studies that ppl live longer if they consume it in moderation. Pot has medical uses like in sizures. Honestly the question is silly.
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| GannoK wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | | GannoK wrote: | | gogodr wrote: | As of right now, I think marijuana is more harmful to society than alcohol.
Its not about which substance is more harmful physically for a person.
Both substances hit immensely to people's productivity, the differential factor is that most people I know who smoke week, think that it is ok to smoke it even in situations when drinking alcohol is not ok.
This situation being mainly: work breaks and in between classes/lectures.
If they were to keep it for recreation at the right moments like parties or hanging out responsibly with friends, I would think them both as equal or even the alcohol being worse, but right now that's not happening.
(If it is not ok to go drunk somewhere, it is also not ok to go high) |
Your post is misinformed. Using my self and many others I know and have seen online as evidence, weed does not make you unproductive, that's complete BS. Weed makes you feel good and ails your pain. I smoke weed before work, on breaks, and while I'm doing all sorts of shit and I get a lot done. It's about the individual, not the substance. There is a reason why Cannabis has it's own classification of drugs. Alcohol is a depressant and a poison. It literally kills you and has no medical value. Stop pretending that alcohol is not something that bad. There are calculated deaths every year from just drinking related events, and how many are there with weed again? I think because you don't live in a culture where weed is accepted as a legitimate thing, your opinion is skewed to that of an alcoholic culture. Weed is not bad and can be controlled just fine by individuals who are motivated enough to do things with their life, and there are PLENTY of examples of people like that |
Indeed, weed is illegal in my country, even so several of my friends smoke weed and some of my coworkers do. Out of a sample of 20 people, which are still a segmented sample because they are only people close to me, the 20 are less productive if productive at all after smoking weed.
So, we disagree. I can only see you as the small percentile. There are no absolutes, I'm sure there are some people that see benefit in productivity from smoking weed, but that is not the vast majority. At least not in my direct environment.
And note that I didn't say that alcohol was not harmful in any way.
About statistical deaths from alcohol and weed, it is different. You will see that there are way less death by accidents (alcohol related) in a society with gun control and hence the illegality of weed there are way more deaths related to it. But that's a whole different subject. |
You can say that weed has a correlation with being unproductive, but there is no concrete evidence for this to be true, and vice versa with what I claim. It should be legal and be allowed usage for anyone over 18. If they become unproductive after smoking weed, that is their problem, not marijuana. Some people require to have THC in their system everyday to help with their problems. Nobody needs alcohol in their system, it's purely recreational. One is medicine, one is a poison.
And shot as soon as I read that you said weed was a depressant, I didn't bother reading what you have to said. You don't know shit. |
http://learnaboutmarijuanawa.org/factsheets/workplace.htm
You know, there is concrete evidence. And even if there is correlation without causality, that's enough given a big enough sample.
Current medical use of marijuana is pretty much a placebo medication, like alcohol in the previous century. Yes, doctors did prescript alcohol to patients to keep them from thinking about their illness and worsening their situation with stress. However, marijuana is more effective than alcohol in that department.
No body needs marijuana in their system and it is as recreational as alcohol. Marijuana does not heal anything, its medical use is to distract the patient and reduce stress. That's all there is to it.
Also there is this article (which is really unfair since it only addresses the bad things about marijuana and not the benefits at all, which there are. Sadly it is an anti marijuana article), still the article makes many valid points and have a lot of research behind as you can see in their references segment.
http://www.ndsu.edu/alcoholinfo/students/marijuana_myths_facts/
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My point still is against marijuana users rather than marijuana itself.
I still believe marijuana is just as bad as alcohol (which is not really that harmful to oneself), the problem is within the people who think that it is ok to smoke in situations where it is completely not ok to do it.
As a matter of facts, this was also a problem with alcohol in the previous century(or maybe 2 centuries ago). People thought that alcohol was completely harmless and it was not that uncommon for people to drink while at work. This of course led to many accidents, and rather later than sooner it became a stigma of irresponsibility for good.
I just hope that with the wide spread and legalization of marijuana the same thing happens. People start to realize how irresponsible they are being and society starts #weedshaming all those who smoke irresponsibly. Only after that it will be embedded within our culture that there is a time and a place for marijuana consumption.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| BreakinGods wrote: | | (dib1500) wrote: | | That homeless dude ate off that guys face in miami or something was high on marijuana. Marijuana makes you go crazy. |
That was obviously an isolated incident that was made into propaganda to keep weed from being legalized, and they said synthetic cannabis if I'm not mistaken.
Another HUGE point I forgot to make is that alcohol is also physically addictive. My parents were both alcoholics, so I know the effects it has on society with all the domestic violence growing up. Weed doesn't make you throw up if you do it a lot and feel terrible to the stomach, black out and have sex with someone you don't want to, and it can be pretty hard to tell if someone is high on weed if they use eye drops and are use to the effects, so they can still get stuff done in a professional environment. |
Uuuuh, weed most certainly does make you throw up and stuff if you smoke too much...
But I didn't get any sort of hangover when I smoked too much, which is definitely a big improvement over when I drank too much.
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