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Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
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kithylin
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: New EULA Reply with quote

greatsage wrote:
99% sure eula says they can ban whenever


I don't think you're understanding what I was saying in the above post. No matter what the EULA says, they (gearbox) can not physically prevent you from launching, and playing the game. There is no possible mechanic for such a function. It does not exist. There is nothing to "Ban" you from, the game do not connect to a "central server" that you can be "Banned" from (You can even play Borderlands 2 (And I assume BL2:TPS too) offline without even being on the internet). It's all local on your hard drive. Even multi-player, they can not stop you from joining a multi-player game, wither or not you've cheated in single player. It's not possible. Some how gearbox would have to connect to your computer remotely, through your router/firewall, and issue a command to delete the game off of your computer and remove it from your steam list. And this just.. isn't possible, at all. For one thing, only Valve Inc. has access to your steam account, no one else, not even gearbox.

Once you pay for it, it's in your steam list, and installed on your hard drive you can always run it forever, cheat or no cheat.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:10 am    Post subject: Re: New EULA Reply with quote

kithylin wrote:
greatsage wrote:
99% sure eula says they can ban whenever


I don't think you're understanding what I was saying in the above post. No matter what the EULA says, they (gearbox) can not physically prevent you from launching, and playing the game. There is no possible mechanic for such a function. It does not exist. There is nothing to "Ban" you from, the game do not connect to a "central server" that you can be "Banned" from (You can even play Borderlands 2 (And I assume BL2:TPS too) offline without even being on the internet). It's all local on your hard drive. Even multi-player, they can not stop you from joining a multi-player game, wither or not you've cheated in single player. It's not possible. Some how gearbox would have to connect to your computer remotely, through your router/firewall, and issue a command to delete the game off of your computer and remove it from your steam list. And this just.. isn't possible, at all. For one thing, only Valve Inc. has access to your steam account, no one else, not even gearbox.

Once you pay for it, it's in your steam list, and installed on your hard drive you can always run it forever, cheat or no cheat.


EULA isn't about just banning you, its about them prosecuting in a court of law and if it ever came to that then...well then its going to be a sad time for you.

As far as banning goes, they can do that without needing any reason. Its not physically impossible, sure you can play single player or even crack it but when you join online you connect to their servers. If you're talking about to p2p/lan etc then what is the point of buying the game because you can do that with a cracked copy as well. You are assuming steam and gearbox are two completely different entities that absolutely have NO communication whatsoever about the customers who bought the game which is not true at all, gearbox can ask steam to ban anyone and "remove" the game from their steam list and again steam can do whatever the hell they want with your account because you agreed to their terms. Do they do it ? No but don't preach it as they can't do anything.

Anyway, you should stop giving advice about something you absolutely have no idea about. As far as the poster goes, he doesn't need to be afraid of whatever terms has been changed because it doesn't concern this game much (its focused on single player).

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welp.. game's live. If anyone has any tables for BL2, I suppose we can start with this thread, post em here if you come up with anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a new topic for it in cheat requests and a cheat table in the tables section, so it's pretty much pointless to post anything here.

EDIT: Now there are 2 tables for it.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just thinking it would of been a good idea to have all the tables in one place.. but seems I put the thread in the wrong place and everyone's starting their own threads so.. whatever. I tried, so much for that. :/
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have opened this topic months ago, which is why it is full of useless posts by the time the game is released.

And no, it's not a good idea to put everything in one huge topic. It's a terrible idea. People don't want to read through 200 pages of junk. They want their cheats right in the first post when they open the topic.

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