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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: why did you close my topic? Reply with quote

i was having a topic about a game that i wanted help with
and i dont get why did you close the topic?
after getting the answer "you cant cheat server sided games"
i was asking if there is any other softwere or any other way to do this.
i realy need help with it so plese help me !!!

again thenks ahead for whoever helps me.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you mentioned the name of an online game, so it got locked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont get it whats the problem with mentioning an online game(i am a newbie so...)?
does that mean that no one can help me?
if so can you plese explain to me what are the limitetion of cheat engine and if there is any other software which can help me?
also plese dont lock the subject yet i realy wanna understand the limitetion of cheat engine so i requiet if possible to keep this subject unlocked for 48 houres so i can ask everything which i wanna know.
thenks ahead(and soory for my english)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forum.cheatengine.org/faq.php#0

anyhow, server sided values can not be changed. Only client sided values.
If they change back after changing them, they are server sided
See server sided values like this value : 100

try changing that with CE so that it stays to what you changed it to even after a refresh with the browser

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again i am a newbie so what is CE?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CE = CheatEngine.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i was able to understand it after a copule minitus but i cant replay twice in a row so here is the replay i worte(dont have time to edit it):

never mind i finally got it(again i am a noob).
but if i cant change server sided info then:
how does facbook games(as an example) work? sience there is option to interact with other player.
and there are a lot of prograsmes which i see which are aspecialy made for staff like that how do they work?
also is there any other program i can use to change server sided info?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you can.

A) Hack into the server and change the binaries, so that they do what you want.
(pretty unrealistic)

B) You could programme some kind of "bridge-server" to parse the packages that are exchanged between the client and the server, and alter them. (Sometimes you need to encrypt/unpack packages first). It would work like this.
Code:
Game Client <-connects to-> Your Bridge Server <- forwards packages to->  GameServer

This way you could find possible exploits and stuff.

"WPE Pro" is a programme that can do this, but its not very versatile, so you probably need to write your own programme to do that.

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how does facbook games(as an example) work?

Sometimes not all values are stored server sided (Just downlooaded when you open the game).

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if this is how it works is there any programe that whould be able to help me with:
hacking into the server.
sending false information that whould make the server think that its what the game says(even if i change the value of money and XP etc...)
or something of that type.

thenks ahead fgor whoever is helping.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hacking into the server.


Is highly illegal and nothing Dark Byte wants to see discussed on his website.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well but if cheat engine isnt intended to hack server than what is it planned to do?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's targets are games that you can play when you have no internet
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes but the reason i wanna hack into the game servers is that i am not rich so i dont have milions of dolars to spend so what i am trying to achive is the same advanteg that rich pepole that have a lot of money to spend on this games but whitout paying(again i dont have a lot of money)

so tell me what is wrong

to try to get something that you cant pay on
or to charge pepole to get money
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very easy. Do not play those games and let those games die

Anyhow, the only way to change server sided values is by going to the server and edit them there

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure that there no way to use cheat engine(or any other softwere)
to send false info which i will be able to edit?
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