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Gniarf · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:55 am Post subject:

Well your mouse says "we moved to the left" (or other direction) each time it moves of 1/DPI inch to the left. (So yeah, in engineering terms, it's physical sensitivity, but let's not use this appellation to avoid confusion)

Sensitivity is by how many pixels/degrees the software moves your cursor/turns the player each time the mouse says "we moved to the left".

So (hand_speed/DPI) * sensitivity = ingame_speed, except when you're lagging.

Now something I'd like to know is: Does it feel different to have a 800dpi mouse with sensitivity 1x VS a 1600dpi with sensitivity 0.5x (or 3200dpi with sensitivity 0.25x) ?

Lastly (I swear I'm not trolling, I'm really interested in the answer),dpi set aside, what advantages do $50+ mice have over $5 ones (comparison base)?
I'm not asking you to repeat the commercials, just what features you actually use.

Hero · Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

SFP+ · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:31 am Post subject:

It might be outdated, but my Microsoft IE 3.0 hasn't let me down yet since I bought it five, six years ago.

I've used it in (high-leveled) tournaments and what not, and I still find no reason to switch it out. (I patched it to 500 hz)

kls85 · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

Picking a mouse depends on what you want to use it for.
Is it for games or basic use?
Do you want palm grip or claw grip?
What surface you're going using it on?

Games or Basic use
Gaming mice are mostly laser with some being optical. The lens are place at the center instead of to the side. They have usually have crazy DPI, where it's most likely their main selling point for being a "gaming" mouse. Rolling Eyes

Basic ones are mostly optical where some premium ones being laser.
They have a much lower DPI mostly at 800DPI and el cheapo mice may have it at a much lower range. The position of the lens don't really matter.

Using a mouse at some ridiculous DPI setting are mostly unusable, but this doesn't mean you should avoid them. A higher DPI mouse will have a wider range for you to choose from as you can adjust it to your needs though its software.

Palm vs Claw
Here is a good explanation on the different types of grips, its pros and cons. There is even a grip called finger grip.
Read here

Surface use
Laser and optical can be used on most basic surfaces, but they're limited.
Microsoft has its own technology called BlueTrack. This mouse lets you not only use it on the basic surfaces, but also carpet, wood, granite and more.
Logitech's answer to BlueTrack is DarkField. It's similar to BlueTrack, but has a advantage to work even on glass (glass must be at least 4mm thick).
Microsoft BlueTrack can be found on many of its mice, the only gaming mouse to have BlueTrack is the Microsoft SiderWinder X8.
Logitech DarkField is currently available on the Anywhere MX and Performance MX. The Performance MX has tops out at 1000DPI.

For gaming I own a Logitech G700. It uses laser and supports up to 5700DPI. Initially I wanted the Performance MX for its DarkField, but its 1000DPI is a turned off. I adjusted my G700 to 1000DPI to see what would happen if I have gone with the Performance MX. I was happy I didn't get that as setting to 1000DPI, doesn't suite my needs. Due to my small space for moving my mouse, setting at 1000DPI requires me to lift my mouse if I want to move the cursor across my 24 inch screen. Setting to 1200dpi works great.
The Logitech G700 has up to 13 programmable buttons, each can be customized to a specific task. There is also profile support where selecting 1 profile will change the task of those buttons and changing to another profiles will make those buttons function as something else. This is great if you do multiple stuffs like have 1 profile for games, 1 for image editing, and another for multimedia. The mouse works in both wired and wireless.

For your budget, here is one you may want to look at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104618&Tpk=Logitech%20G300
For those Naga users, there is the G600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104674
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104675

Saifallofjmr · Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject:

SFP+ · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:46 am Post subject:

1929394839292057839194958 · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:41 am Post subject:

kls you really seem to have a warped vision when it comes to gaming mice. You don't want to be able to use a mouse on a shit surface because if you can that means that there is prediction/acceleration.

@OP:

Logitech G400
Steelseries Xai
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
Zowie AM

all really really good

Saifallofjmr · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:35 am Post subject:

Logitech 6500
Logitech G400/MX518
Steelseries Xai
Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0
Razer mouse

kls85 · Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:39 am Post subject:

Phox · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:44 am Post subject:

Hero · Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject:

maweb · Newbie cheater Reputation: 1 Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Posts: 15

I own the Logitech G500 Programmable Gaming Mouse (cannot post links but you can find it on amazon!)

And I'm satisfied!

justa_dude · Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:14 am Post subject:

Please forgive me for waking a dead thread, but I came across this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7JVjcPzL0#t=0) of François Morier, Senior Engineer at Logitech in Switzerland, talking in some detail about DPI, sampling, and angle error, among other things. It's very interesting.

Cheers,
JD

Edit by SF: Approved bump, good material in post.