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[br0l0ck]

looks fuckin shit

[Nirojan]

how does this work
is the left one like wasd and the right one is like mouse

[paupav]

It looks very bad, unlike steamOS
http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/

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no those buttons are too awkward sorry it's shit

[Womanizer]

Its seems promising. I like that they've made something new, and not something that has already been made.
We shall see.

[Cryoma]

It would take years of re-learning but I think overall it would be the most efficient controller made so far and certainly better than a keyboard for games that don't need a ton of keybindings.
I still think the mouse is superior for accuracy in pointing though.

[br0l0ck]

dualshock and xbox360 controllers are already both perfect, and I can switch between using them super easily, I dont prefer one over the other, but all these new controller designs that are in the xbox one, ps4, wii u and now steam controller, I dont see the point in trying to fix what isnt broken, whenever I feel like a game needs a controller to be played I never feel like it could be improved upon. I feel like its more of the games that need to control better than controllers at this point, playing Dark Souls with a dualshock or 360 controller feels perfect and I wish more third person games controlled that way.

since they're using portal as an example, i dont see the point in trying to innovate in first person control with controllers with a thumbstick like design, maybe they should have made something like a 10key less keyboard with a mouse that slides out that fits in your lap, people are already used to having laptops in their lap, so a small keyboard and normal sized mouse wouldn't be much more of a compromise as long as they made it more convenient

I dont think any of these new controllers will be hard to get used to, and I dont think they'll be inherently flawed, they just wont compare to kb/m and wont close the gap enough between controllers and kb/m enough to make a difference. it still will all come down to how a game controls more than anything

[Up2Admin]

Would try. Looks different, doesn't look bad though.

Also the "don't fix what isn't broken" is a terrible mindset brolock, you should be ashamed.

[br0l0ck]

[Maes]

[br0l0ck]

I don't consider better sensors and more responsive buttons etc. an innovation, more of a logical progression. like you said, the parts get cheaper and better, so it makes sense to use them, a newer controller will be more accurate than an old one, but that isn't really innovation, its just improving upon whats already there. its not fixing what isn't broken either, its just improving it too.

they're trying to move console players to PC with the controller and steam box. the 2 things I always hear console players complain about PC is that its inconvenient/ they dont want to sit at a PC and they dislike keyboard+mouse. thats why they're making the steam box, so you can sit down like you're at a console and play pc games, and the same reason they're making this controller, because if you're going to sit down and play something you'll usually want a controller (as a console player). but the thing is, you can already do those two things, you can just put your pc next to a TV plug in an hdmi cable and use big picture mode, so theres no reason to have a steam box. and you can easily plug in your xbox 360 controller which as a console player you'd already be used to, and then play those games from your couch.

no one likes to say it but, console players are uneducated and stubborn, no developer will say that (usually), but its the truth. as a PC person I wish that everyone else would just leave the console players alone and stop trying to bridge the gap, it just annoys the console players because they don't want to change yet PC keeps pushing it in their face, and annoys PC people because they get angry that console players wont change.

the way I see the steam box working is that PC players will get it, not console players, and PC users will just use it to stream to their TV which is just a bit more convenient than moving their PC there. and the only way I see the controller working is if its actually more accurate and comfortable than the current controllers out there, but again I feel like controls in a game them self still matter more than a controller at this point.

valve trying to move console players to PC (traditional or steam box) is just to get more customers using Steam, valve is still a business and from their point of view it makes sense to make something that will draw console users away, but again, if console users wanted a change they'd have moved to PC already, instead people will still be buying the xbox one and ps4, and they'll buy the generation after that too, even though this upcoming gen and the one after it is the closest thing consoles have come to running PC hardware, they just wont change.

[Cryoma]

I don't want dirty console-hands all over my pc vidya >:c

[Maes]

[Up2Admin]

Think they're mostly wanting to inspire game devs to provide more Linux support, since Gabe doesn't like the way Windows is going.

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