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First or second option?

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Selrahc
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:14 am Post subject:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Assuming you take your picks on Bedir:

1-You can replace option 3 with:
GAMING PC INTEL i5 2500K Quad Core 4x3,3GHz - 1000GB HDD - 8GB DDR3 (1333 MHz) - DVD Writer - Grafik GeForce GTX560 Ti (1024MB DDR5-VGA-DVI-HDMI-Di... 11) - Audio - 6xUSB 2.0 - 2xUSB 3.0 - LAN - 650W - Cardreader - Wireless LAN (USB/150MBit) - 1xeSATA - 3xLED fan - Windows7 Home Premium 64Bit (DVD a.Lizenzkey) - COMPUTER

(£679.00 / $1095)
It's £70 cheaper but in terms of performance I don't think you'll notice the difference (CPU is an i5 at 3.3GHz instead of an i7 at 3.6GHz).

2-Personally I'd vote for:
GAMING PC AMD FX 4100 Quad Core 4x3,6GHz - Asus Motherboard - 1000GB HDD - 8GB DDR3 (1333 MHz) - DVD Writer - Grafik GeForce GTX560 (1024MB DDR5-VGA-DVI-HDMI-Di... 11) - Audio - 6xUSB 2.0 - LAN - 650W - Cardreader - Wireless LAN (USB/150MBit) - 1xeSATA - 3xLED Fan - Windows7 Home Premium 64Bit English (incl.DVD u.Lizenzkey) - COMPUTER

(£549 / $885.7)
because:
-It has a gtx560 which is a lot better than a gtx550 ti. At least there is a fair gap between the 2 on this benchmark. One should compare more benchmarks, but I'm lazy.
-It indeed stings a little to use a bulldozer CPU, but games are mostly gpu demanding, not cpu, especially when you have an nvidia card because physx calculations are done by the gpu.
-It seems to be in your target price range.

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:28 am Post subject:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.

I'm guessing you'd also choose option 1?

Would you mind telling us your setup?

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:56 am Post subject:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.

I'm guessing you'd also choose option 1?

Would you mind telling us your setup?

Radeon HD 6770 1GB
6GB ram
AMD Athlon II X3 Triple-Core 455

I don't care what anyone says, I don't need anything more. This runs everything I've played so far on maxed out settings with no lag whatsoever. When I was choosing the parts, I thought I was only going to be able to play on mediums settings. It was a delightful surprise.
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:03 am Post subject:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.

I'm guessing you'd also choose option 1?

Would you mind telling us your setup?

Interesting.. I'm more worried about the "AMD FX 4100 Quad Core 4x3,6GH" processor as I fear that it will not be good enough. Should I wait a couple months more and get the i5 or should I get the AMD processor along with my build this week?

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:09 am Post subject:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.

I'm guessing you'd also choose option 1?

Would you mind telling us your setup?

What's the computer you're building going to be used for?
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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:20 am Post subject:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Chuckington wrote:

Slender wrote:

Gniarf wrote:

Would I be able to record with Fraps during gameplay still?

And then some.
I'm using a 500$ home build and I can run any game maxed out with fraps and no lag. There's no doubt in my mind that computer could handle it.

I'm guessing you'd also choose option 1?

Would you mind telling us your setup?

What's the computer you're building going to be used for?

Recording gameplay with Fraps, editing some video and maybe photoshopping a bit. Gaming and recording mostly.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:46 am Post subject:

Believe it or not, MOAR COARS is better for video editing and shooping. Gaming can be done on any modern quad core. So if you want to do those things, a 6/8 core amd cpu, or expensive as hell intel cpu is the way to go.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:54 am Post subject:

Hero wrote:

Believe it or not, MOAR COARS is better for video editing and shooping. Gaming can be done on any modern quad core. So if you want to do those things, a 6/8 core amd cpu, or expensive as hell intel cpu is the way to go.

Actually "can be done" does not imply that it works as well as the other CPUs or even well enough. I don't think of it as good enough if a game runs at under 120fps ever and if you want to play the game with no bugs, jitters or problems exactly how it was supposed to be played you will want that too.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

konr wrote:

Hero wrote:

Which option would you go for?

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:19 am Post subject:

konr wrote:

Hero wrote:

>no bugs

Are you retarded? That's got nothing to do with your pc. That's on the programmers. I can play BF3 with 120fps on large conquest and the game is one bug after another for so many players.

Don't listen to konr he doesn't know shit about pc parts. He has had his graphics card " fly out of the slot ". He doesn't even know how to properly put a pc together. He thinks you need 120fps to play a game smooth when 60fps is perfectly fine. He thinks the human eye can see fps when it doesn't work like that. Dear god he's just retarded. My buddy is using an FX 4100 stock clocked, 4gb ddr3 1600mhz, and a stock sapphire 6850. Plays BF3 on high at 100+ fps, plays CoD MW3 maxed with all its horrible optimization. I don't understand AMDs horribly weird FX architecture but dear god it works fine for gaming.

I do however say if you got the cash, go intel. But don't buy an i7. i5 = i7 without hyperthreading, and hyperthreading is terrible for gaming. Go i5.

As far as graphics are concerned AMD is leading with the current generation. It does far greater at high resolutions compared to Kepler.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:24 pm Post subject:

Hero wrote:

"No bugs" was obviously an example amongst others. There's a HUGE difference on FPS games with 60 vs 100 fps (if you can't tell you aren't good enough).

Quit flaming each other or you'll both receive warns.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:28 pm Post subject:

Safko wrote:

Hero wrote:

This completely is dependent on the game too. BF3 I can easily see a difference but CSS I get 300fps and I dont see a difference between 300 and 60. Then you have big ass games like GTA and SR3 that have so much world map that it only gets 40fps anyway. SR3 is a bad example though since its de-optimized on AMD cards for some reason. I aint flaming but I refuse to let someone fuck them selves because they listened to konr. Case in point, stable 60fps is better than unstable 120fps. And besides I doubt his monitor will even be 120hz.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject:

Stable 60 is better than 120, yes. However Konr never implied it wasn't. Also 120 fps with sync off is better than 60 with it on.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject:

Safko wrote:

Stable 60 is better than 120, yes. However Konr never implied it wasn't.
Also 120 fps with sync off is better than 60 with it on.

He's been implying it in RS threads related to the subject, thus I am calling him out on it. I never play with Vsync on but I do cap my FPS in most cases. Normally a cap of 120 - 200 depending on the game. Konr has this strange theory you need 120fps to play every game or its slow, and this is just not true. Take NFS The Run. The game developers have it capped to 30fps and it runs smoother than any game I have ever seen getting 120+ fps. Its just not necessary to have all games running at 120fps. I'd love to quote him but cannot find the thread in RS. But more or less he said if a frame rate dips even 1 frame it looks bad and this is untrue. 100 - 120 fps Its very slight difference, while 80 - 100 can be seen easily. But then the difference between 50 and 60 fps in many games is unnoticeable. Its when the frame rate dips below 50 that you can see it hard.

If I was OP I'd go for the build with the 560ti. While it is AMD, it has a better gpu. I would just ignore the i7s because, hyperthreading, and make it between i5 and FX 4100. You can just turn off the hyperthreading on the i7 but, it would also save money to get an i5, I am sure.

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Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: Re: Which computer specs are better (gaming)?

It might be superfluous, but I'd like to clear up a potential misunderstanding:

Slender wrote:

Option 1 :

GAMING PC AMD FX 4100 Quad Core 4x3,6GHz - Asus Motherboard - 1000GB HDD - 8GB DDR3 (1333 MHz) - DVD Writer - Grafik GeForce GTX550 Ti (1024MB DDR5-VGA-DVI-HDMI-DirectX 11) - Audio - 6xUSB 2.0 - LAN - 650W - Cardreader - Wireless LAN - 1xeSATA - 3xLED Fan - Windows7 Home Premium 64Bit English (incl.DVD u.Lizenzkey) - COMPUTER

(£517.00 - 834 USD)

Gniarf wrote:

2-Personally I'd vote for:
GAMING PC AMD FX 4100 Quad Core 4x3,6GHz - Asus Motherboard - 1000GB HDD - 8GB DDR3 (1333 MHz) - DVD Writer - Grafik GeForce GTX560 (1024MB DDR5-VGA-DVI-HDMI-Di... 11) - Audio - 6xUSB 2.0 - LAN - 650W - Cardreader - Wireless LAN (USB/150MBit) - 1xeSATA - 3xLED Fan - Windows7 Home Premium 64Bit English (incl.DVD u.Lizenzkey) - COMPUTER

(£549 / $885.7)

The one I suggested is NOT option 1, it's another computer but from the same dealer (I think).

@Hero: The only setups with a 560ti mentioned in this thread were intel builds (option 3 and...3' ?). The computer I suggested just above has a gtx560 non-ti.

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