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The ones that I know
As2-3 decent
C++ & c# little bit
Vb great
CSS & HTML & js Good
What else should I learn?
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Chances are you don't really know any of those languages, and think knowing some syntax and keywords means you do.
Also, on another note, learning a programming language isnt hard, mastering it is.
And on another note, you learn programming languages based on what projects you have to tackle, not on some arbitrary criteria.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| @Aviar, i disagree with 2 of 3 of those sentences
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| Slugsnack wrote: | | @Aviar, i disagree with 2 of 3 of those sentences |
I hope the last one isn't one you disagree with.
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Then which one did you agree with?
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| "Also, on another note, learning a programming language isnt hard, mastering it is. "
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Whats wrong with the first? As to the third, I find little practicality to learning prolog, even if it does supposedly let me think about things in a different fashion. I honestly believe people should pick a project, and find a language suitable to meeting those goals, not just go around picking up random languages to learn (usually because this simply leads to learning how they work in a very cursory manner, and no real prolonged experience with them). Also, Fortran and Scheme I feel aren't very useful beyong saying, oh recursion and functional languages are so nice for academics (I personally did like scheme some, but I never did or would tackle an honest project with it). Same goes for haskell.
P.S.: Are we counting HTML/CSS as a language or as markup?
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Ive made quite a few hacks in actionscript in the past years, and had many projects in it. I just made simple things in c++, like I made things like a crappy football playbook organizer, I mainly only made things for person use with that. I've made tons and tons of scripts with and stylish greasemonkey upon request from other forums.
So what should I try next?
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really the best is not to learn a programming language but programming itself.
Get an objective like what kind of programming you wanna do ?
depends of what do you want to do I could recommend you C# , if it is limited for what you want to do then go for C++
I can recommend you that ones because are the ones I'm familiar with.
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| Coyote Bongwater wrote: | Ive made quite a few hacks in actionscript in the past years, and had many projects in it. I just made simple things in c++, like I made things like a crappy football playbook organizer, I mainly only made things for person use with that. I've made tons and tons of scripts with and stylish greasemonkey upon request from other forums.
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Personally, I would say from an academic point of view, Scheme is a classic. Realistically though, find something you WANT to make, and then decide on a language, as it'll give you more drive to see it through.
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| Aviar³ wrote: | Whats wrong with the first? As to the third, I find little practicality to learning prolog, even if it does supposedly let me think about things in a different fashion. I honestly believe people should pick a project, and find a language suitable to meeting those goals, not just go around picking up random languages to learn (usually because this simply leads to learning how they work in a very cursory manner, and no real prolonged experience with them). Also, Fortran and Scheme I feel aren't very useful beyong saying, oh recursion and functional languages are so nice for academics (I personally did like scheme some, but I never did or would tackle an honest project with it). Same goes for haskell.
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well he's not been overly cocky about what he knows and also i've seen some of his posts in other sections where he demonstrates common sense and at least some level of sound knowledge. thus, i wouldn't immediately dismiss him as a complete noob
i've learnt prolog and haskell  on that thread i linked to, someone quotes something i very much agree to : `A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing.`
i can speak for prolog and haskell because i've learnt them and they did change the way i think in some way. also prolog is used in many areas of computer science such as knowledge representation. it's like asking why do you learn formal logic at school
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| Slugsnack wrote: | | Aviar³ wrote: | Whats wrong with the first? As to the third, I find little practicality to learning prolog, even if it does supposedly let me think about things in a different fashion. I honestly believe people should pick a project, and find a language suitable to meeting those goals, not just go around picking up random languages to learn (usually because this simply leads to learning how they work in a very cursory manner, and no real prolonged experience with them). Also, Fortran and Scheme I feel aren't very useful beyong saying, oh recursion and functional languages are so nice for academics (I personally did like scheme some, but I never did or would tackle an honest project with it). Same goes for haskell.
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well he's not been overly cocky about what he knows and also i've seen some of his posts in other sections where he demonstrates common sense and at least some level of sound knowledge. thus, i wouldn't immediately dismiss him as a complete noob
i've learnt prolog and haskell on that thread i linked to, someone quotes something i very much agree to : `A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing.`
i can speak for prolog and haskell because i've learnt them and they did change the way i think in some way. also prolog is used in many areas of computer science such as knowledge representation. it's like asking why do you learn formal logic at school |
Prolog did change the way I think (backtracking is still a novel and annoying feature to me), and while I do know that it has its place among AI academics (and even actual software), I still never really enjoyed programming in prolog, thus making me feel like it was a waste of time (mostly since I never actually learned the language through practice, just books and some trivial applications). Haskell I've never actually learned (I know that supposedly monads are supposed to be great or something). What I am trying to say, a language is more useful if you know its uses and actually bother to attempt to gain some level of mastery with it.
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: Re: recommend me a programming language to learn |
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| Coyote Bongwater wrote: | The ones that I know
As2-3 decent
C++ & c# little bit
Vb great
CSS & HTML & js Good
What else should I learn? |
I would stop with ActionScript since HTML5 is going to replace that within the upcoming years. HTML, CSS, JS and web-languages like that are solid languages to learn because they are the languages of the web, if you will count them as languages. As far as a desktop language, I would learn Java, C# since they are used in the work fields a lot. Plus you can use both of them as web languages. C++ if you'd like to do gaming. I used Java to build a simple game I competed with in the FBLA - I got 3rd place in the state and I was happy  That's offtopic I know but oh well.
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>Chances are you don't really know any of those languages, and think knowing some syntax and keywords means you do.
Shot is pretty abrasive, but man, that was brutal. You couldn't even give him the benefit of the doubt? Like suppose he's just really into programming and not exaggerating at all?
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