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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:42 am Post subject:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

You play Ashe, I'll play any other AD Carry, and there wouldn't be any competition.

Ashe is a bad, global ult sure, and she slows but she's also squishy as fuck if people know how to deny her, when I see Ashe on the opposite team, I always get happy.

Also, just by going on base stats Ashe has the second lowest AD starting (Attack damage 46.3 (+2.85) ), and has the lowest level per AD. Also, her movement speed is 300, she is fucking slow as hell.

Janna, has more AD than Ashe.
After you guys posting this, I believed you were probably better than me at LoL, I just believe you've played longer now.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

If you only want to go by how good champions are 1v1, champions such as LeBlanc, Sion, and Tryndamere would crush any competition. No questions asked. Too bad this is a team game and therefore your argument is invalid.

Ashe put in the right hands has one of the most gamebreaking ultimates in the game, providing one of the most efficient means of initiating, and it then allows her to just sit back and pop arrows at the enemy team just as well as any other AD carry as long as she has a good enough front-line to keep her alive. Which pertains to just about any AD carry ever. Graves might be good, but if he's getting fucked in the ass by the enemy team's anti-carries, he's going to die just as fast as Ashe any day. Regardless of skillset & base/scaling stats.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

Tryndamere 1v1, leave this thread you're clearly not good.

He's the EASIEST too counter, like legit.
Also, maybe it's because I play LS when he's not banned and Ashe and about every other carry is just easy as fuck.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject:

Gavin wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

They're all relatively easy to counter btw... Sure though, I'll leave this thread, just because I can't be bothered to argue with idiots.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject:

Ashe isn't bad, she just isn't good, every other ranged AD carry is better than her.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject:

Ashe = Easy modo. _________________ Twitter if you want to read my shitty tweets.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject:

Gavin you might want to take into account the other 4 people in the team. Ashe arrow + Nocture Ult = Successful gank nearly every time.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject:

Notepad wrote:

Genja on Ashe, your team loses.

Teemo > All Ranged AD Carries
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject:

tim you dont play anymore

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

Genja on Ashe, your team loses.

Teemo > All Ranged AD Carries

Too bad there's 4 other team mates.

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:49 pm Post subject:

Notepad wrote:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

Genja on Ashe, your team loses.

Teemo > All Ranged AD Carries

Too bad there's 4 other team mates.

If you run four AD Carries your team saks.

Also, you have four teammates yourself.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

Genja on Ashe, your team loses.

Teemo > All Ranged AD Carries

Too bad there's 4 other team mates.

If you run four AD Carries your team saks.

Also, you have four teammates yourself.

You misunderstood me.
I mean say you pick Teemo + Janna and you're against Ashe + Soraka, it'll pretty much be a farm lane and Ashe will scale a lot better than teemo later on. This is of course ignoring the fact that Teemo has no real escape (His W isn't enough to stop ganks) while Ashe has an arrow that can completely stop a gank or set your team up for a counter gank.

You can derp and say "I have blind, soo gewd" but a good ashe will just stay out of your range and kill minions at tower. She'll lose a few CS but she'll still be better than Teemo later on. This of course isn't even considering that a good arrow can completely change the outcome of a teamfight.
Also, Teemo's blind is extremely short ranged and if you do manage to get it off against the Ashe in a team fight then you'll just die instantly seeing as you have to be in the middle of the team fight in order to use it.

tl;dr: Ashe is extremely viable, but baddies gon' bad

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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject:

(dib1500) wrote:

With Fiora I got 32 and 2 with that bitch Smile

>Feels pro playing on an overpowered, tard-friendly champion.

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

[SPW]Killamoocow wrote:

Gavin wrote:

The Grim Heaper wrote:

Gavin wrote:

Meh, Ashe isn't viable.

Ashe if a horrid AD Carry compared to others.

in soloq & low ELO, yeah sure.
otherwise, no not really

She is a pretty good AD ranged carry, the fact that she just lacks utility due to the fact that there are other AD ranged carry outclasses her and that more of the AD melee champions now have gap closers or remove debuff skills(Olaf). It all depends on the other team composition for she can counter many other champions too. Also the the player's experience with the champion. I've seen many beautiful plays with Ashe carrying a team full of retards.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject:

Notepad wrote:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

xDeviant |@CallMeAsianTim wrote:

Notepad wrote:

Genja on Ashe, your team loses.

Teemo > All Ranged AD Carries

Too bad there's 4 other team mates.

If you run four AD Carries your team saks.

Also, you have four teammates yourself.

This. Ashe is a late game champion. In fact, arguably one of the best late game AD carries. Sure, other carries can bully her in lane, but unless they bully her a lot, it isn't going to matter by end game when she rapes their face with crits and they can't even run away.
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