Cheat Engine

inkyvoyd · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Dec 2011 Posts: 11

Hello.
I have a friend who is somewhat misguided, but I'm not very good at explaining things. He has made a couple of inaccurate (or accurate?) statement about cheat engine. He has made two statements.
1. Cheat Engine is for noobs, script kiddies, etc. anyone who uses CE is a noob. In other words, those who use cheat engine aren't really "hacking".
2. Cheat Engine sucks and WPE is much better. It can even do server sided hacks.
I realize that these statements may sound stupid, biased, etc. These are in the words of my friends, and I do request a means of correcting his assumptions.
Thank you.

Dark Byte · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject:

He's right, about the default configuration of Cheat Engine
Cheat Engine is NOT a "Hack" tool. It's a reverse engineering and programming tool

Of course, anyone with some basic programming knowledge, or proper resources, can extend Cheat Engine to do all the 'hacking' he's talking about.

An injection at Winsock2.send and recv and you have yourself a packet editor, and hooking a little bit deeper and you will have the packets BEFORE they get encrypted making a lot easier editing

Also, WPE has a hard time making chameleon skins and causing walls to be transparent and showing detailed information about the enemy in the game itself, which is something you can do with CE, IF you know what to do (hooking, processing raw data, etc...)

inkyvoyd · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Dec 2011 Posts: 11

atom0s · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject:

Sounds more like your friend doesn't know how to use Cheat Engine and is just dissing it because of it.

inkyvoyd · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Dec 2011 Posts: 11

I do understand that he is dissing it, but I would like to explain to him why what he says has no logical basis (if it has no logical basis).

atom0s · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject:

inkyvoyd · Newbie cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 26 Dec 2011 Posts: 11

atom0s · Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject:

Geri · Moderator Reputation: 112 Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 5627

Not to mention 64-bit support and a good 64-bit debugger that you will hardly find elsewhere...
Plus what DB said, packet editing is easier with CE if you know how to use it, so if he doesn't know how to do it, he is the script kiddie.
By the way, editing packets is not a "server-sided" hack. You just hack the client to send false info, which you can do with packet editor or CE too, but meh, why argue about it.