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Slugsnack
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: 3rd 27" iMac arrives

Hot damn ! Will update with pics later Edit: Last edited by Slugsnack on Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:35 am; edited 2 times in total

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject:

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

Shut the fuck up.

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject:

or you can not be retarded and use linux... or yaknow, pay 1000+ for a mac thats is as good as any 300 dollar rig
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject:

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

I am assuming I won't be able to develop in .NET, so I'll have to use boot camp to use a Windows environment, or perhaps there is some other solution that would not require a dual boot. Also the added bonus of using the SDK for creating apps seems like another pro, which CAN NOT BE USED ON A PC OR LINUX (Unless you use Hackintosh or a VM, which are both highly unstable, and depend greatly on the hardware you're using).

Aside from that, the environment might lack or add something that'd make it easier to code, or to change the development environment.

Is that explanation good enough, ya wanker?

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject:

Augustine wrote:

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

if it can run on a linux or pc, then it clearly isnt useful
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:12 pm Post subject:

Strelok wrote:

Augustine wrote:

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

if it can run on a linux or pc, then it clearly isnt useful

Yet people make some serious cash using xCode. What nonsense are you spouting?

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

I actually bought a Mac for dev as well. I can tell you the train of thought I went through to choose iMac. Perhaps it'll be helpful for you.

Currently there are the following Macs available:
MacBook
MacBook Pro
MacBook Air
iMac
Mac mini
Mac Pro

I considered first one of the laptops but eventually decided not to go down this path. Firstly, I believe all macs are very very expensive if comparing to similarly spec'd machines on the market right now. For the laptop range I would say they are approximately twice the price of another non-mac laptop. But with buying a mac it's sort of unavoidable being ripped off so this really only adds the icing on the shitcake. The main reason I decided not to get a laptop was because I don't believe developing on a laptop screen is realistic for the long term. The screen is not only small but forces you to sit close to the computer because the keyboard is (of course) built into the computer. To go a bit further on the price thing, I would think you're paying also for the portability which I also do not need.

As a final note to the laptops I am aware you can plug in extra screens as well but if you're going to do that you're basically killing portability and attempting to change your laptop into a desktop system sooo... As a developer who is used to developing on 2 or 3 screens on a regular basis switching down to a laptop screen would be a pretty painful transition for me.

So now we have struck laptops off the list I was left with:
Mac mini
iMac
Mac Pro

I decided not to get a Mac Pro because they are too overpowered for my needs and I was taking a look at Mac mini which I understand is used by a lot of devs. The main problem I have with Mac mini is that it only comes with a Core 2 duo processor which I find ridiculous. You'd be landing yourself with a processor that is several generations old. Now it really depends what your requirement is.. This could potentially be okay. However since I was looking to replace my existing computer system with a dual-booting Mac this threw Mac mini out of the window already. I heard reports that Mac mini is not that nice for dev in fact because it can be a little bit sluggish with xCode.

Mac mini also comes with no screens. If you add the price of a 21.5" or 27" screen you'll actually find iMac is cheaper as well as having better specs.

So when it came down to it for the reasons discussed above I felt iMac was the best way to proceed. 21.5" or 27" is merely a preference and is also down to things like financial constraints, etc. Since I was prepared to spend a few thousand dollars on the new system anyway I picked the 27".

I actually ended up putting quite a lot of thought into picking which Mac to buy and I'm pretty happy with my choice in the end. I have no doubt your requirements and constraints are at least slightly different to mine but hopefully some of the things I found might be helpful for you too.

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

You're wrong. It is virtually impossible to properly develop for iOS on a PC without doing some Hackintosh shit. As stated this method is pretty unreliable and a shit load of hassle.

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:02 pm Post subject:

Slugsnack wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

You're wrong. It is virtually impossible to properly develop for iOS on a PC without doing some Hackintosh shit. As stated this method is pretty unreliable and a shit load of hassle.

You don't even need hackintosh or anything, you can just develop whatever the fuck you want on windows/linux.
I made some ios apps on windows 7.
I mean after all it doesn't make a difference what operating system you're using to type code, and the compilers are cross-platform.

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject:

Okay, well augustine, what exactly are you planning to develop?

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject:

Mike Mercury wrote:

Okay, well augustine, what exactly are you planning to develop?

A bad case of aids.

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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:29 pm Post subject:

Cryoma wrote:

Mike Mercury wrote:

Okay, well augustine, what exactly are you planning to develop?

A bad case of aids.

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:48 am Post subject:

Cryoma wrote:

Slugsnack wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

Phox wrote:

Augustine wrote:

I am considering purchasing a Macbook Pro as well to develop on, would that be wise (considering you are a developer yourself)?

What the fuck difference does it make. The entry level software is the only difference, the programs that you'll use to do whatever you're going to do is the same on mac or pc.

You're wrong. It is virtually impossible to properly develop for iOS on a PC without doing some Hackintosh shit. As stated this method is pretty unreliable and a shit load of hassle.

You're a fucking goddamn liar, that's what you are. The compilers are not cross-platform you lying piece of shit. Do you even have an Apple developer account ? It's possible to develop simple shit with things like Sencha Touch but to convert it to native you need a shim like phonegap which still requires you to be on a Mac to properly upload onto your device and use.

Otherwise you can use some random SDK nobody uses and is supported like shit such as DragonFireSDK. You're a noob and you're a liar.

Mike Mercury wrote:

Okay, well augustine, what exactly are you planning to develop?

Doesn't make a difference. To do any serious iOS dev you eventually need a Mac.

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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:54 am Post subject:

People getting mad at people who have money.

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