Cheat Engine

[Foxxy2011]

Hello,
There is this game i'm playing/hacking, S4League, wich has recently updated and i could not use CE 6.0 with it.
The things i had to do are just change a couple of weapons into anothers, by using their codes and re-loading them in server selection screen.
Here's a proper explanation of the method that lastly worked:
Search [TuT]s4 league new method on youtube, since i cannot post links yet(sorry for the trouble:(. ) and select part 1, then part 2 is next.
Part 2 is also there.
Since the new patch, when i suspend and kill the required programs to make CE run as it were needed before, the game just crashes, could be a sign of CE beign patched(?)
Before this patch only CE 6.0 worked, 6.5.1 gave a crash extemely similar to this.
What i tried is:
Suspend S4Client.exe(The game itself) so i can intrerrupt it's activities.
I searched for my items, found the values, put them down, changed them and saved them to a cheat table.
Closed CE and resumed game, went to the server selection screen
(Before going to the server selection screen, the addresses for the items are exactly the same, they just change if you choose a server, because that's where the game loads your char data(weapons, costumes etc.)
Ok SO
I suspended them, started Ce again, attached S4Client, selected the cheat table and froze the values so they won't change back quickly resumed the process and led the character data be loaded, suspended again and closed CE
When i resumed the process(after CE got stopped), it crashed no matter what.
Is it a detection issue???
How can i bypass it?
Is it because CE got "patched" and cleaned or just because the suspend method does not work anymore(a.k.a even when suspended, the programs still work, even tho that sounds RIDICULOUSLY STUPID)
P.S: If there is somebody skilled in CE wich can dedicate his/her time to teach me some more notions, i'd be very happy.
Just write a PM and i'll lend you my skype.
Thanks in advance.

[Dark Byte]

Perhaps you have been idle for too long
Or the server has noticed that the values are not what it used to be

[Foxxy2011]

No, no, you didn't entirely understand what i said:
If i do not suspend the process, i cannot access it with CE because the game will crash, i can record it and show it to you for easier understanding of the situation

[Dark Byte]

suspend the game
start ce
do NOT attach it to the game and wait a minute or two
close ce
resume the game

if the game crashes it is because it detects ce
if the game does not crash it is detecting the changes to the memory

[Foxxy2011]

Tested, the game did not crash, neither it did when i resumed it with CE turned on, it crashed when i attached the process to the game, but it does not happen if i attach it when the game is suspended, it just detects when CE attaches to the game.
All i need is to freeze some values, can i do that without CE turned on???

[Dark Byte]

So just attaching and not changing any memory causes a detection?
Are you on a 32-bit or 64-bit version of windows ?

Attach to cheat engine and check the memory at OpenProcess and NtOpenProcess
Then start the game and check again, see if it's the same or not

[Foxxy2011]

OpenProcess and NtOpenProcess, what's that??? What does it do actually?
Win7 x64, because on x32 the game has a bypass that hides s4client.exe, therefore i cannot use Ce on x32.
I kinda feel lucky to have x64...

[Dark Byte]

those are api's (functions), and is loaded in every program.
Just check that the one inside Cheat Engine is the original function and not modified by the game

[Foxxy2011]

Attach what??? Does this involve programming on some language or something? I tried to google those things but found no info except for C++...
Do i need Cheat Engine's source code or something?