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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Burning Audio Flac Files Reply with quote

Do these type of files really have flawless sound?

Is there any way I can burn these types of songs on a CD and be able to play them in my car?

Any help or advice is appreciated

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flawless sound, possibly not, flac is more known for being a loss less compression meaning there is no data lost in having it in flac format.

You will need to re-rip them to audio in order to play them in a standard cd player.

http://flac.sourceforge.net/

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just use a professional program such as Roxio or Nero.
Roxio has build in FLAC support and all you have to do is open up audio CD project.

Add the songs you want and burn it. When it's done you can play them in your car.

Nero does not, however there is a plugin
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Place the plugin into Nero's plugin folder
Note: different version will have different paths.

And same thing, open up Audio CD project, add songs, and burn.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plugin kls85 posted is also free.

Basically all they do is re-encode it to wav then rip it to audio.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thing I already have Roxio
I'll try it out tonight once I get some blank CD's

But the audio quality will be better then mp3?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The audio quality will be cd quality, not mp3. Roxio or Nero will convert the flac files to windows wav format, and then rip it to cd audio format which is what a standard cd that you buy from a b&m shop is.

Comparison of cd audio quality vs mp3 quality. http://www.lincomatic.com/mp3/mp3quality.html

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what I will burn to CD is essentially better?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A compact disc player will only play audio CDs in the wav format. Wav is a uncompress format which provides the highest quality, a lot higher than FLAC.

Going from a lossless compress FLAC back to wav, will not improve the quality as the file is already altered.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wav is better yes, it is also larger and more unwieldy thats why you have the better encoders that drop parts of the data for compression.

I have been playing guitar for more than half my life, and I can not tell the difference between mp3 and flac audio.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be able to tell the difference between .FLAC and .mp3 anyways, unless you are a true audiophile or have a high-end audio setup.

If you're going to be playing it in the car, it doesn't matter if you burned mp3 or flac; it'll sound the same.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my friend is a sound whore
and he can tell if one is better then the other
I'll try burning WAV also and let you guys know

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeverForgotten wrote:
Well my friend is a sound whore
and he can tell if one is better then the other
I'll try burning WAV also and let you guys know


1st. When you want to burn a CD so you can here in your car, it's automatically burned in WAV format. There is no other choice so it's pointless for you to say "I'll try burning in WAV".

2nd. If you're going to burn your FLAC files back to WAV then this whole comparison will be invalid because FLAC is a compressed and WAV is not.
Going from a compress to uncompress will not return the quality of the song back to its original pristine state.

3rd. Not sure how of a sound whore your friend is, but if he really is one, I expect him to have some fancy headphones to hear the quality and not some cheap set that's included with his iPod.

If you want to do a real comparison between WAV and FLAC, you will need to start off with a legit music CD.


WAV and AIFF
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Most lossless audio comes from an originating source that has a bit-by-bit file that actually maps all the points on a sound wave. The two main formats of choice for complete recording are WAV (pronounced wave) and AIFF (sometimes pronounced "Aee-ph"). Both file formats are devoid of any sort of compression, making an average pop music song three or four minutes in length a hefty 50MB. While not as large of an issue in modern computing, 50MB file sizes in the mid to late 90s made the transfer of audio files extremely difficult, which is why lossy codecs were born. WAV is typically the Windows standard for audio storage, while AIFF is the Mac standard, though in modern usage both work interchangeably on either operating system. The WAV and AIFF formats are typically seen as "master" or "archive" formats, meaning they aren't typically distributed to the public since the file sizes are large, though the audio quality is much higher than any lossy codec.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AhMunRa wrote:
wav is better yes, it is also larger and more unwieldy thats why you have the better encoders that drop parts of the data for compression.

I have been playing guitar for more than half my life, and I can not tell the difference between mp3 and flac audio.


You must have garbage equipment then. FLAC sounds significantly better than MP3 on even a mid-fi setup.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I actually have a very good rig, I just don't really care if one encoding sounds better. When FLAC can play on all my devices then maybe, but till then, I'm still happy with mp3.

Just a note, alot of your flac that you download from PB or torrents are flac rips of mp3's. I've seen this done on many invite only sharing sites that they encode and upload for the ratio.

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