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TLDR: the pointer I come to in any game ALWAYS points to itself or nothing accesses it!

Hi, im new to the board, but i've known about CE for a while. I've done the tutorial fine but when it comes to finding a pointer in a real example like a game, things get much more difficult than the tutorial... I've also done a giant search for my problem but it hasnt really been addressed specifically

As a simple test to start getting more used to CE, I tried something basic, finding current ammo for either Bioshock (first one) , or STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl.

I will put in some pics to show what im doing so its easier to point out what im missing.

I found the address just fine, and look at what writes to it.
h t t p : / / i 4 3 . t i n y p i c . c o m / 2 9 c 5 t 3 c .j p g
only one address came up, and making it a pointer does give me the corrent value of my ammo.
h t t p : / / i 4 4 . t i n y p i c . c o m / e k g g e e . j p g
The second I detach the debugger (so I can see what writes to this pointer) the value of the pointer starts pointing to itself! When I go back a step and see what writes to my initial address, as soon as i attach the debugger again, the pointer's address points in the right direction again!
h t t p : / / i 4 1 . t i n y p i c . c o m / n g e m n 5 . j p g

Why would it do this? Anti-cheat function in bioshock doing this?

Anyways, another problem im having like in STALKER: Following the same steps as above when I search for "what accesses this pointer" after finding the initial address, it gives me something like "push eax", pushing an address really isnt writting to it, so im wondering how i am supposed to find the next pointer.

I seem to be going in loops when I continue with the address that it gives me from the push...

I've even scrolled up the asm but cant seem to figure out how to get to the base address.

Any help is appreciated. (Remove spaces to see the image...)

This seems to be lacking in pretty much every tutorial on pointers, when you no longer find anything that writes (or accessing brings you in a loop) and your left with a cliff in front of you, nowhere to go.

If i ever figure this out i'll sure as heck make a tutorial on it.

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BIOSHOCK

Search edi in HEX and use it for finding pointer or u can fast pointer.

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