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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarr wrote:
elpacco wrote:
No I'm...I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. Because...I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, and I really don't know how to start. That can't possibly be the entire build, because you don't know how much power any of the other parts use, and you don't even know what any of the other parts are. And an i7 920 uses 130W...so...I don't know what you're talking about.

No, really.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-core-i7,2268-10.html

The test system has, according to the article, an i7 920, Asus P6T, GTX260, 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3, 300GB WD Velociraptor and an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray drive. Peak power, unoverclocked, is 213W. Subtract the GTX260's 25W (at idle, since I'm unwilling to believe the power sucking GTX260 could use that little + an i7 at load) and add 83W for an HD5750 under load and you're still at a mere 271W of power consumption.

This is assuming, of course, that the 300W PSU would be any good, would actually have sufficient power connectors and a single, decent +12v rail. If you could actually find one, which is highly unlikely, it would run it. Since the closest anyone could come, most likely, would be Corsair's 400W PSU, it would have no trouble running it at all.

EDIT: Also, the chart comes from
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
, the test system specs listed at
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-4.html
It doesn't say anywhere that that is the total power used by the entire thing. And if you think about this logically, if that powerful of a build only required 273W or whatever you said it was, then why would they be running it on a 1100W PSU? Or more prevalently, why would anybody ever buy a PSU that was more than 400W? Why would anybody ever make a PSU that was more than 300W? What you're saying doesn't add up.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
Zarr wrote:
elpacco wrote:
No I'm...I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. Because...I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, and I really don't know how to start. That can't possibly be the entire build, because you don't know how much power any of the other parts use, and you don't even know what any of the other parts are. And an i7 920 uses 130W...so...I don't know what you're talking about.

No, really.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-core-i7,2268-10.html

The test system has, according to the article, an i7 920, Asus P6T, GTX260, 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3, 300GB WD Velociraptor and an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray drive. Peak power, unoverclocked, is 213W. Subtract the GTX260's 25W (at idle, since I'm unwilling to believe the power sucking GTX260 could use that little + an i7 at load) and add 83W for an HD5750 under load and you're still at a mere 271W of power consumption.

This is assuming, of course, that the 300W PSU would be any good, would actually have sufficient power connectors and a single, decent +12v rail. If you could actually find one, which is highly unlikely, it would run it. Since the closest anyone could come, most likely, would be Corsair's 400W PSU, it would have no trouble running it at all.

EDIT: Also, the chart comes from
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
, the test system specs listed at
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-4.html
It doesn't say anywhere that that is the total power used by the entire thing. And if you think about this logically, if that powerful of a build only required 273W or whatever you said it was, then why would they be running it on a 1100W PSU? Or more prevalently, why would anybody ever buy a PSU that was more than 400W? Why would anybody ever make a PSU that was more than 300W? What you're saying doesn't add up.

you do know how Tom's Hardware test their shit rite? they used the same shit over and over again. also what are you saying doesn't make fucking sense either.
People buy 400W + psu because they are hosting server/ workstation shits/
people make 300W + psu because consumer demands it, so how about stop dragging the topic to nowhere and admit the 5750/5770 use less power than the 4X series and it will run fine in a brand 400W psu?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shota wrote:
elpacco wrote:
Zarr wrote:
elpacco wrote:
No I'm...I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. Because...I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, and I really don't know how to start. That can't possibly be the entire build, because you don't know how much power any of the other parts use, and you don't even know what any of the other parts are. And an i7 920 uses 130W...so...I don't know what you're talking about.

No, really.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-core-i7,2268-10.html

The test system has, according to the article, an i7 920, Asus P6T, GTX260, 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3, 300GB WD Velociraptor and an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray drive. Peak power, unoverclocked, is 213W. Subtract the GTX260's 25W (at idle, since I'm unwilling to believe the power sucking GTX260 could use that little + an i7 at load) and add 83W for an HD5750 under load and you're still at a mere 271W of power consumption.

This is assuming, of course, that the 300W PSU would be any good, would actually have sufficient power connectors and a single, decent +12v rail. If you could actually find one, which is highly unlikely, it would run it. Since the closest anyone could come, most likely, would be Corsair's 400W PSU, it would have no trouble running it at all.

EDIT: Also, the chart comes from
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
, the test system specs listed at
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-4.html
It doesn't say anywhere that that is the total power used by the entire thing. And if you think about this logically, if that powerful of a build only required 273W or whatever you said it was, then why would they be running it on a 1100W PSU? Or more prevalently, why would anybody ever buy a PSU that was more than 400W? Why would anybody ever make a PSU that was more than 300W? What you're saying doesn't add up.

you do know how Tom's Hardware test their shit rite? they used the same shit over and over again. also what are you saying doesn't make fucking sense either.
People buy 400W + psu because they are hosting server/ workstation shits/
people make 300W + psu because consumer demands it, so how about stop dragging the topic to nowhere and admit the 5750/5770 use less power than the 4X series and it will run fine in a brand 400W psu?
The average everyday computer user doesn't run a server or a workstation. And there are separate power supplies (called server power supplies) for those who do. There are normal power supplies, then there are server power supplies. We've been talking about normal power supplies the entire time because NO ONE IN THIS THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT HOSTING A SERVER. On their testing rig, do you think they were using a server power supply? I don't, as there would be no point. If no one ever used more than 300W, why would there be normal power supplies (not server power supplies) that are more than 300W?

And yes, the 5000 series uses less power than the 4000 series, but won't run (with equivalent other hardware) on a 400W PSU.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
Shota wrote:
elpacco wrote:
Zarr wrote:
elpacco wrote:
No I'm...I'm pretty sure you're wrong there. Because...I shouldn't really have to explain this to you, and I really don't know how to start. That can't possibly be the entire build, because you don't know how much power any of the other parts use, and you don't even know what any of the other parts are. And an i7 920 uses 130W...so...I don't know what you're talking about.

No, really.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-core-i7,2268-10.html

The test system has, according to the article, an i7 920, Asus P6T, GTX260, 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3, 300GB WD Velociraptor and an LG GGW-H20L Blu-Ray drive. Peak power, unoverclocked, is 213W. Subtract the GTX260's 25W (at idle, since I'm unwilling to believe the power sucking GTX260 could use that little + an i7 at load) and add 83W for an HD5750 under load and you're still at a mere 271W of power consumption.

This is assuming, of course, that the 300W PSU would be any good, would actually have sufficient power connectors and a single, decent +12v rail. If you could actually find one, which is highly unlikely, it would run it. Since the closest anyone could come, most likely, would be Corsair's 400W PSU, it would have no trouble running it at all.

EDIT: Also, the chart comes from
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-15.html
, the test system specs listed at
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-4.html
It doesn't say anywhere that that is the total power used by the entire thing. And if you think about this logically, if that powerful of a build only required 273W or whatever you said it was, then why would they be running it on a 1100W PSU? Or more prevalently, why would anybody ever buy a PSU that was more than 400W? Why would anybody ever make a PSU that was more than 300W? What you're saying doesn't add up.

you do know how Tom's Hardware test their shit rite? they used the same shit over and over again. also what are you saying doesn't make fucking sense either.
People buy 400W + psu because they are hosting server/ workstation shits/
people make 300W + psu because consumer demands it, so how about stop dragging the topic to nowhere and admit the 5750/5770 use less power than the 4X series and it will run fine in a brand 400W psu?
The average everyday computer user doesn't run a server or a workstation. And there are separate power supplies (called server power supplies) for those who do. There are normal power supplies, then there are server power supplies. We've been talking about normal power supplies the entire time because NO ONE IN THIS THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT HOSTING A SERVER. On their testing rig, do you think they were using a server power supply? I don't, as there would be no point. If no one ever used more than 300W, why would there be normal power supplies (not server power supplies) that are more than 300W?

And yes, the 5000 series uses less power than the 4000 series, but won't run (with equivalent other hardware) on a 400W PSU.

...
You've seriously got to be kidding me. That's like asking why anyone makes cars that can go over 70MPH when that's the highest legal speed limit on most US highways. People want shit that's more powerful than it needs to be for peace of mind. An HD5750 with a high end CPU, mobo, HDD, etc, would run perfectly fine on a 300, or 400, watt PSU. When you're getting components like that, however, people generally want to overclock which, of course, uses a lot of power.

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