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Does My Crap VM fail or what?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Does My Crap VM fail or what? Reply with quote

I recently coded a program that protects certain parts of the program marked with a macro. It basically encodes it and actively handles the exceptions. Now... The speed really sucks... See the download for the speed test... I am currently using a separate process to handle all the exceptions from the vm. So any suggestions that might speed it up a little?

http://www.mediafire.com/?zyznvg5rgzd

I mean for a loop like this:

Code:
for i:=0 to 10 do
begin
end;


It takes no VM 0 ms to do it while it takes the VM 325 ms...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The VM looks like it'd be very easy to analyse, too - if you take a string dump, you'll find opcodes, registers, etc in plainview, with their VM equivalent:

Code:

00456185    E8 62DEFAFF     CALL 00403FEC                            ; VMSpeedT.00403FEC
0045618A    E9 C0060000     JMP 0045684F                             ; VMSpeedT.0045684F
0045618F    43              INC EBX
00456190    891F            MOV DWORD PTR DS:[EDI],EBX
00456192    8BC6            MOV EAX,ESI
00456194    BA FC764500     MOV EDX,4576FC                           ; ASCII "EBP+EAX*8"
00456199    E8 4EDEFAFF     CALL 00403FEC                            ; VMSpeedT.00403FEC
0045619E    E9 AC060000     JMP 0045684F                             ; VMSpeedT.0045684F
004561A3    8BC6            MOV EAX,ESI
004561A5    BA F8684500     MOV EDX,4568F8                           ; ASCII "error"
004561AA    E8 3DDEFAFF     CALL 00403FEC                            ; VMSpeedT.00403FEC
004561AF    E9 9B060000     JMP 0045684F                             ; VMSpeedT.0045684F
004561B4    8BC6            MOV EAX,ESI
004561B6    BA 10774500     MOV EDX,457710                           ; ASCII "ESI+EAX*8"
004561BB    E8 2CDEFAFF     CALL 00403FEC                            ; VMSpeedT.00403FEC
004561C0    43              INC EBX
004561C1    891F            MOV DWORD PTR DS:[EDI],EBX
004561C3    E9 87060000     JMP 0045684F                             ; VMSpeedT.0045684F
004561C8    8BC6            MOV EAX,ESI
004561CA    BA 24774500     MOV EDX,457724                           ; ASCII "EDI+EAX*8"
004561CF    E8 18DEFAFF     CALL 00403FEC                            ; VMSpeedT.00403FEC


EDIT: Is there a reason why there's two instances of "VM Speed Test" being launched too?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One debugs the other. And I didn't add anything else to it. No Obfuscation or anything. Anti-Debug nothing. XD
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dnsi0 wrote:
One debugs the other. And I didn't add anything else to it. No Obfuscation or anything. Anti-Debug nothing. XD


Anti-debug and obfuscation aren't necessarily a requirement; virtualization itself should be the obfuscation.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Majii wrote:
dnsi0 wrote:
One debugs the other. And I didn't add anything else to it. No Obfuscation or anything. Anti-Debug nothing. XD


Anti-debug and obfuscation aren't necessarily a requirement; virtualization itself should be the obfuscation.


I know. But you need to obfuscate the vm. Or anyone can reverse the vm and no matter how complex the encoding is it will still be broken.
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