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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Help plz. Reply with quote

So..
There is a new school opening up next year called "New Tech High School".
It's about taking students and teaching them in a new way to see the learning process. Anyone can apply and only 100 applicants will be accepted from 3 different middle schools. I have a chance to go, I'm pretty interested, I'm just worried about most of my other friends I'll leave back at my old school. This new high school is 4 years same as any others. Has the 4 main core subjects, Math, English, Science, and Reading. The school focuses more on teaching with technology and group learning. They pair you into groups and teach you something then you work together and you present. It has a bunch of benefits, they give you a laptop, you can leave campus to eat lunch, and it's a small school so more hands on learning.
So the question is..
Should I go?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Help plz. Reply with quote

LooT wrote:
So..
There is a new school opening up next year called "New Tech High School".
It's about taking students and teaching them in a new way to see the learning process. Anyone can apply and only 100 applicants will be accepted from 3 different middle schools. I have a chance to go, I'm pretty interested, I'm just worried about most of my other friends I'll leave back at my old school. This new high school is 4 years same as any others. Has the 4 main core subjects, Math, English, Science, and Reading. The school focuses more on teaching with technology and group learning. They pair you into groups and teach you something then you work together and you present. It has a bunch of benefits, they give you a laptop, you can leave campus to eat lunch, and it's a small school so more hands on learning.
So the question is..
Should I go?
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You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

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No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The school brings in a lot of principles from college and ect.
This school is really looked at and it's not necessarily a "experimental" high school. It's just a different way of teaching the students. The person who is opening up the school came to my class today and told us about it. He said even though this is the first year it opens you still have a lot of chances to get a scholarship because the work is more advanced and focuses a lot on science and math.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

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No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.

LooT wrote:
The school brings in a lot of principles from college and ect.
This school is really looked at and it's not necessarily a "experimental" high school. It's just a different way of teaching the students. The person who is opening up the school came to my class today and told us about it. He said even though this is the first year it opens you still have a lot of chances to get a scholarship because the work is more advanced and focuses a lot on science and math.
The bolded is exactly what I mean. That means it is an experiment. They are seeing if this new (and it isn't even that new, it has been tried many times as I have said; almost all have failed) way of teaching will work. And just because he says it focuses a lot on science and math, doesn't mean it does. Even if it does (which is impossible to prove since it is sort of an oppinion), no college will believe it any more than they would any other school.

This school won't stand out as good, if anything it will stand out as bad.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

elpacco wrote:

Hahahahahahahhahahaha


No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.

I come from a Freinet school, sort of like this.
I'm currently in University.

So stfu, k?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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elpacco wrote:
<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

elpacco wrote:

Hahahahahahahhahahaha


No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.

I come from a Freinet school, sort of like this.
I'm currently in University.

So stfu, k?
And what university?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
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elpacco wrote:
<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

elpacco wrote:

Hahahahahahahhahahaha


No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.

I come from a Freinet school, sort of like this.
I'm currently in University.

So stfu, k?
And what university?

Erasmus.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the teachers are experienced teachers. Others are just coming out of college. I was just wondering on what you guys thought. It seems like all the teachers and principles in all of the middle schools were supporting it and saying it was a good thing. My "computer" teacher who teaches a few things about computers told me it would be a great idea for me to go. Since I'm interested in technology and whats going on. The "New Tech High" isn't the first of its kind there are many other schools in Texas that have been open for awhile. I'm not sure what the standards were for those schools though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elpacco wrote:
<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

elpacco wrote:

Hahahahahahahhahahaha


No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.


i like how you start off your statement with "you have no fucking clue, Your stupid" this isn't an E-penis battle so put your "terribly offensive" words away.

As i said before, you have no proof. Where is the proof that these "New" schools will be/are terrible. Your clearly no where near the level of education that would be fit for a high school student. If you were then you would know one thing, Source your information. I can source my information easily.

http://www.newtechhigh.org/Website2007/index.html
http://www.bobpearlman.org/BestPractices/newtechinfo.htm
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?ID=34372

read through some of this. Plenty of information to support that these schools are worth attending. If they weren't any good then why would they only allow "exceptional" students ect. And yes your right. The rules, and teachers ALWAYS fail at their job the first year the school is open. But it is like that at every school.

All im here to say is i support going to this school that you were accepted to go to.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All im here to say is i support going to this school that you were accepted to go to.

I wasn't really "accepted". Not yet. I think I have a really good shot at going. Most of my teachers now know that I'm interested in computers and technology and know that I'm somewhat advanced from what I've learned over the internet and from my dad. So they could give me good reports/recommendations. I was just asking RS if you thought it was a good idea. I still need to talk with my parents about it.
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<3 wrote:

All im here to say is i support going to this school that you were accepted to go to.

I wasn't really "accepted". Not yet. I think I have a really good shot at going. Most of my teachers now know that I'm interested in computers and technology and know that I'm somewhat advanced from what I've learned over the internet and from my dad. So they could give me good reports/recommendations. I was just asking RS if you thought it was a good idea. I still need to talk with my parents about it.


heh i am happy that i was recognized by my teachers in high school for being fucking brilliant with technology. Thanks to that i got to take c++ coding, robotics, Java, and a few other classes that make me stand out. Coolest fucking nerd my friends have ever met Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elpacco, just no, stop trying, it's sad.

Really. Just stop it.
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<3 wrote:
elpacco wrote:
<3 wrote:
i would go. That sounds kick ass. Yes you will be leaving your friends. But if they were your "REAL" friends then they would still remain close with you. (out of school ect) PLUS you will be meeting a lot more people at this new school. Worth it if you ask me. Absolutely worth it.

elpacco wrote:

Hahahahahahahhahahaha


No.

You won't get into any college if you went to an experimental high school the first year it opened.


You have no proof of that being true. If anything it might give him a better chance. Since he will have a better learning environment it seems, and more than likely better teaching methods. His grades would be out of the standards
You obviously have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You are completely stupid. This isn't a one-of-a-kind high school. There are a lot of these, and barely any of them have done even moderately.

But in the case that this school somehow does exceptionally well, he wouldn't stand out as a better student because everyone's grades would be better. But it is extremely doubtful that the school would do well at all. Like I said, there are tons of these types of schools opening up these days, and none of them have done exceptionally well. In fact, almost all of them have done exceptionally poorly. Colleges know this, and it definitely will not be good when they see you graduated from "New Tech High School," a school that hasn't even been heard of yet because it just opened up four years prior. And the name confirms that it is just another experiment to test new teaching methods. Colleges will realize that as well.

And what do you mean the environment sounds better for teaching? He hasn't even really explained anything apart from that they'll be small-ish classes and you'll be split into groups. All the teachers are going to be completely new, since all experienced teachers know about these schools and know what I say to be true. Since none of the new teachers are going to have any experienced teachers to help them, they are all going to completely fall apart. The rules, just like the rules at any high school in its first year, are going to fall apart as well.

Trust me, you do not want to go to this school, it would be a terrible idea, unless you aren't planning on going to college.


i like how you start off your statement with "you have no fucking clue, Your stupid" this isn't an E-penis battle so put your "terribly offensive" words away.

As i said before, you have no proof. Where is the proof that these "New" schools will be/are terrible. Your clearly no where near the level of education that would be fit for a high school student. If you were then you would know one thing, Source your information. I can source my information easily.

ht­tp:­//ww­­w.newtechhigh.­org/Website2007/index.­ht­ml
ht­tp:­//ww­w.bobpearlman.­org/BestPractices/newtechinfo.ht­m
ht­tp:­//ww­­w.insideindianabusiness.­com/newsitem.asp?ID=34372

read through some of this. Plenty of information to support that these schools are worth attending. If they weren't any good then why would they only allow "exceptional" students ect. And yes your right. The rules, and teachers ALWAYS fail at their job the first year the school is open. But it is like that at every school.

All im here to say is i support going to this school that you were accepted to go to.
This is complete proof you have no idea what you are talking about. On a side note, this is RS, fucking deal with the insults or leave.
The best information is always passed through word of mouth, unless it is solid fact. If you were any older than the 12 years of age you most likely posses, you would know that. Now read what I got from the first website you cited.
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Vision of New Technology High School

New Technology High School is committed to leading educational reform.
Our program encourages students to learn through collaboration with family, business, and community. Students develop the resilience necessary to succeed in a rapidly changing world. Their education at NTHS prepares them for lifelong learning, productive citizenship, and personal growth.

Students learn in an innovative and professional environment fostered by the use of advanced learning methods and technology. Both staff and students understand the commitment necessary to implement a rigorous and relevant curriculum, one in which technology standards and skill development are embedded.

Integrating education and technology has put NTHS in a unique position. In order to ensure success for both students and staff, funding for technological refreshment and skill development is critical. NTHS works alongside the New Technology Foundation to develop business partnerships, and run site institutes in order to meet our financial needs. At New Technology High School, the solution to ensuring continued success is self-sufficiency.
Educational reform is NOT AT ALL what ANY college wants (any college that isn't another one of these kinds of schools, that is). Seriously, fucking think before you write anything. Did you honestly think that 'educational reform' would be a good thing? Why do you think that employers take online degrees to be a joke? The same fucking reason.

Also, the New Technology Foundation thing is exactly what I was talking about. Like I said, this isn't an original idea at all. There are a lot of these schools, and all of them look bad regardless of whether it is good or not due to the large amount of them that are very bad.

I'm not saying it is definitely going to be a bad school, I'm just saying it most likely will. And even if it is a good school, it will look no better than the bad ones, which is very bad.

@Insane Monkey Brain: You live in the Netherlands. Technology schools there are popular, generally pretty good (especially compared to ones in the US) and not frowned upon.

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