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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:57 pm    Post subject: Connection To DataBase Reply with quote

ok i made a trainer for a flash game and i want to make it were that it gets the guid of the computer and i put will need a php or html page for them to sumbit there guid in to and it will store it in it. plz it will be nice if u help me out or point me to the right direction or website.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit of a friendly warning.

If I were you I would think twice about what you are wanting to do. At least if you are wanting to post your trainer here on this site. Even if you are just wanting to log who uses your trainer and how many times its executed I wouldn't do it.

That's just my two cents, take it or leave it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Connection To DataBase Reply with quote

acdcacdc wrote:
ok i made a trainer for a flash game and i want to make it were that it gets the guid of the computer and i put will need a php or html page for them to sumbit there guid in to and it will store it in it. plz it will be nice if u help me out or point me to the right direction or website.


Looks like somebody wants to log alot of user data...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes cause i dont want people to leach it i got a server and every thing or is there another way to add anti leach on it mabey a good password system or connect to a database and use username and password.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

acdcacdc wrote:
yes cause i dont want people to leach it i got a server and every thing or is there another way to add anti leach on it mabey a good password system or connect to a database and use username and password.


So you want to store the user's computer's HWID in a database to prevent others to use it?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you have some sort of immaculate trainer then I don't think that you have anything to worry about. There are a lot of people on this site that have provided a lot of trainers and other applications that don't have any kind of protection on them, mine included.

You have to remember who your audience is. If you are wanting to put a product out for people to use and they have to jump through hoops to use it, licensing, password protection, etc... then they just won't do it. Don't spend to much time trying to figure out how to do something that in the end won't benefit you or the end user in the long run.

Please don't take this as I'm trying to insult or offend but if you are asking how to post to a database then I'm going to assume that you are fairly new to programming. If that is the case then don't worry about someone ripping your stuff off. Just throw it out there, take the criticism and learn from it.

Also, think about where you are wanting to post this trainer. You are wanting to software license a program and distribute it on a site that freely distributes the source code for there very own product. Just something to think about.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to keep your trainer to a select few people you could make specific builds of your trainer that have the guid list build in. so if someone new wants to use your trainer, they send you their guid, you put it in your trainer and recompile, and then send it off to that user
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dark Byte wrote:
If you want to keep your trainer to a select few people you could make specific builds of your trainer that have the guid list build in. so if someone new wants to use your trainer, they send you their guid, you put it in your trainer and recompile, and then send it off to that user


Woulden't that be easy to crack?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will try it and see if yall can crack it ok and is there a tut for a good password system and thanks for yall post.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dnsi0 wrote:
Dark Byte wrote:
If you want to keep your trainer to a select few people you could make specific builds of your trainer that have the guid list build in. so if someone new wants to use your trainer, they send you their guid, you put it in your trainer and recompile, and then send it off to that user


Woulden't that be easy to crack?

Not if he has a unique way of generating the GUID.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overload wrote:
dnsi0 wrote:
Dark Byte wrote:
If you want to keep your trainer to a select few people you could make specific builds of your trainer that have the guid list build in. so if someone new wants to use your trainer, they send you their guid, you put it in your trainer and recompile, and then send it off to that user


Woulden't that be easy to crack?

Not if he has a unique way of generating the GUID.


What If you don't care about how they are generating the GUID and just patch the part where they check the GUID?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a retarded way to think about it dnsi0. if you code it smartly it's not just going to be one conditional jump you can patch which is what you are thinking -.-
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if they use a packet editor and just make it looks like the server returns saying it's ok ?
What if someone steals the computer that belongs to someone with the trainer ?
What if someone hacks the trainer makers computer and steals the source ?

Really, worrying about something getting cracked is a complete waste of time. Are the noobs you sent it to going to crack it? No.
Will other people crack it, I'm certain of it, but by then you might already have a newer version (And thats where my build in guid comes in, since you can put it at multiple places in a obfuscated way making it easy to find out which of the people you sent it to gave it away to be cracked)

Really, don't worry about stuff being cracked.
Or leeched, since I can assure you that it WILL be leached no matter how good protected it is. E.g the stuff the trainer does can be reproduced without even having to decompile the trainer. Just looking at the effects is enough (E.g a hook on the setvariable function of flash decompiles almost 90% of all current flash trainers)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok i guess i will add a password system and they are not that smart to use a packet sniffer cause they say wpe is a Trojan so they dont download that stuff and i will keep the guid idea. thanks dark byte for your info
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slugsnack wrote:
that's a retarded way to think about it dnsi0. if you code it smartly it's not just going to be one conditional jump you can patch which is what you are thinking -.-


Im just saying, if its liek that it probably will get cracked.


And since your making a flash trainer, I don't think anyone will spend time on cracking it.
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