Cheat Engine

[SpleeN]

I'm right now trying to (noobishly) hack MSN Messenger so that I'll understand pointers and stuff better.

So anyways, I find the address for the Nudge's delay and put it on the cheat table (I checked that it's the right address - it works).
I do 'find out what access...' -> change value -> double-clicked my address -> enter the supposedly address in HEX after doing a new scan and I found 5 address.
I chose the lowest value -> Add address manually -> ticked 'Pointer' -> entered the address I just found and put the offset and clicked 'OK'.
This is INDEED the pointer for this address (checked that too - works great) but it isn't static, so I did "find out what access..." to my new pointer -> "find out what access this pointer" and now I got the debugger list empty, so I try changing the value and I still don't get any information/addresses on my list.
How should I continue so that I find my next pointer?
What am I doing wrong?

CE ver 5.5
No programs associated with CE

Settings:

General Settings:
[X] Show undo button
[X] Show advanced options
[X] Update the list of found address even after scanning
[X] Center Cheat Engine when bringing to front
[X] Hide some/all windows instead of trying to bring cheat engine to front
[ ] Use old speedhack
[ ] Save window positions
[X] Show main menu
[X] Get process icons for processlist
[ ] Only show processes with an icon

[X] Show values as if they are signed
[ ] Show and work with binaries as if they are decimals
[ ] Simple paste

Scan Settings:
Size of scanbuffer (KB) [512]

[ ] Fast scan on by default
[ ] Enable Hyperscan when possible
[ ] Don't scan memory that is protected with the No Cache option
[ ] Keep Low memory usage when doing an "Unknown Initial Value scan" with Hyper Scan

[X] MEM_PRIVATE
[X] MEM_IMAGE
[ ] MEM_MAPPED

Thread priority [Higher]

Code Finder:
(o) Use Debug Registers (aka Hardware Breakpoints)
[ ] Memory Access Exceptions

[X] Try to prevent detection of the debugger
[ ] Handle breakpoints not caused by CE

Assembler Options:
[X] Show disassembler
[X] Show debugger options
(o) Use hardware breakpoints (Max 3)
[ ] Use int3 instructions for breakpoints (Unlimited)
[X] Replace incomplete opcodes with nops
[X] Ask for replace with nop

[X] Try to prevent detection of the debugger

Extra:
[ ] Query memory region routines
[X] Read/Write Process Memory (Will cause slower scans)
[x] Open Process

[ ] Undo changes to CE
[-] Force memory to be writable in case the standard method is blocked

[ ] Enable use of the Process Watcher
[ ] Use kernelmode debugger options when possible
[ ] Use Global Debug routines

[ ] Stealth mode (Usermode)
[ ] Stealth mode (Kernelmode)



[X] - Ticked
[ ] - Not ticked
(o) - An option that can't be chosen with another option and is ticked
[x] - An option that is automatically ticked due to another option before it that is ticked, cannot be unticked if the one that ticked it is not unticked
[-] - Can't be ticked unless I tick something else

Help appreciated~
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[powerfear]

ok to do a msn nudge hack its simple you find the nudge adress then right click -> find out what writes to this adress then nudge some adress will appear simply change there code to nop if you want to make it save use OllyDBG and change the same adress to nop then save a new hacked .exe

[SpleeN]

That's not my problem, I want to find the base pointer of the nudge and I can't seem to continue after the first.

[Zohan]

Go to apatch.org to get a MSN patch with hacks.

[SpleeN]

I'm not trying to hack MSN for fun, I want to learn a bit about pointers and maybe something else and continue from there.

I just want to know how should I get my second-level pointer?
I found the first.