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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Is overclocking really dangerous? Reply with quote

my friend just did it and it runs real nice but he said it kills your motherboard faster...is this only sometimes, and how do I do it exactly...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

overclocking voids your warrenty on you cpu for a start, but it does crack you cpu if its overclocked for a long time but with some nice cooling you could slow that process a little.

as for overclocking it all depends on your mobo and your cpu.

if its a pre-built pc (e.g dell, compaq) there will be less chance in overclocking you do it in the bios or you could download some software to do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runer262 wrote:
overclocking voids your warrenty on you cpu for a start, but it does crack you cpu if its overclocked for a long time but with some nice cooling you could slow that process a little.

as for overclocking it all depends on your mobo and your cpu.

if its a pre-built pc (e.g dell, compaq) there will be less chance in overclocking you do it in the bios or you could download some software to do it.


ok thanks im going to get some new fans anyway Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats your current system specs if ya dont mind?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runer262 wrote:
whats your current system specs if ya dont mind?


its a emachine w3503, this used to be my Glider slave but I had to sell my beast for charity Razz

all i modified was 1+GB of RAM for multigliding.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25716

apparently thats a guide to overclock a pc such as that you could try it out if you wanted but id recommend you not to chances of serious damage to the pc is high.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

their is no better way to learn overclocking then to try it out yourself... however you should read up first before you go cranking up voltages and changing FSB speeds. overclocking is NOT that dangerous and it most defiantly will NOT "crack" your CPU (i been overclocking quad cores for a long time now and i still have one thats been overclocked for 4years) but it does put extra stress on the motherboard, ram, and cpu which you could burn out if you arent careful when OCing (more voltage=more heat).

tell you the truth its not going to be easy if you have no previous knowledge, overclocking involves a lot of testing and re configuring and more testing that its rather boring and grueling. im not familiar with emachines but i think the bios settings are locked, if they are your out of luck my friend cause i strongly go against software that overclocks mainly because they are usually very unstable and unreliable and can cause more damage than good.

i suggest getting these programs to monitor your pc before OC.

CPU-Z it gives you all the info on your computer (multiplier, stepping, voltages.etc) that you need to overclock

Core Temp open it up to check the temperature of every core in your computer.

Prime95 this is your best friend, it puts stress on your cpu to check if it is stable (you will know, it usually becomes unresponsive or blue screen of death if your cpu is not stable) Strongly suggest that before you overclock, start up prime95 and run it on "Small FTT" while looking at core temp. if your cpu goes above ~50C (if you have a dual core) you should defiantly not overclock. and should go and look for a cpu cooler before thinking about OC.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Runer has no idea what he's talking about....
Overclocking, unless you push a chip way too far, does not present with much of a risk.
However, OEM computers (made by a manufacturer such as Dell, HP, Gateway, etc) don't let you change the settings you need to in BIOS, so you would have to overclock with software, which I don't necessarily find useful for CPU overclocking.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i was just going by what i heard a long time ago, but if you defently sure its ok to oc, what would you say max volts for a q6600 would be?
mobo is ip35 pro bought it cause it looked nice, my cpu is still running on stock with a huge Thermalright heatsink and 120mm fan
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is really no "max" per se... you can feed a q6600 with 1.5volts if you have water cooling and your temperatures can stay safely under 60C (unlikely with that much voltage + mobo would have to bump up the voltage too but w.e)

depending on your set up, conditions, ambient etc you can push your Q6600 to probably around 3.2 with 1.35v if you have a B3. with GO stepping you can reach higher (probably 3.6 safely). just experiment, you have to overclock it to a certain point, test, if your temps are to high then bring the OC down, if its not stable then raise the voltage... etc.

just raise the voltage until u have a good OC thats stable with reasonable temperatures (i would say reasonable for a quad core is ~62C on the highest core)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

idle atm my temps are 40 - 45 i think thats pretty high...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overclocking will lower your lifetime on your CPU and your motherboard (mostly CPU).

Lets say the life time on your CPU is 5 years then it might get 4˝ with overclocking. And so on.

Im always overclocking, atm im on my E4500 (2.2gHz) overclocked to 3.6gHz.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ran prime 95 and by the time it reached test 2 all cores where 60+

which should i follow, according to core temp, my cpu is 60
but according to abit µguru my cpu is 48
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure that you can keep your computer really cool while you try. If you can't comfortably put your finger on your heatsink and such, then it's not cool enough. Heard that somewhere.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

runer262 wrote:
ran prime 95 and by the time it reached test 2 all cores where 60+

which should i follow, according to core temp, my cpu is 60
but according to abit µguru my cpu is 48

The tjmax of the program that you use to measure your CPU's heat should be the recommended for your CPU. What line of chips are you using? And yes, unless you're on a laptop, idling at 40 is a bit high. I idle around 20-25C.
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