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Slugsnack · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject:

the irony..

crayzbeef · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject:

Wow, i give up, you are all a bunch of idiots who need to learn languages outside of hacking. and learn that asm isnt the greatest thing. See ya trolls.

Slugsnack · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject:

assumptious dipshit. try giving up on life instead of changing your argument when you see you're losing.

zDaniel365z · Cheater Reputation: 0 Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 43

>.> dude at least when start saying whats shit and whats not..... know both sides..... because i have high doupts that you know asm (or even looked into it)....

it is true that asm suffers from having the coding process being slower then others (for instance making window apear)... but if you write alot perhaps you can become better(faster typer xD).....
as for speed difference, asm is faster then other langauges and that can be of great help in some cases (cant realy name any... =O just starting to learn asm my self =DD )
Plus i dont think the guy you first got pissed off meant it as his "main" language... prolly his favorite

>.> plus takes time+effort making whole apps with asm, if you cant appreciate that, well you just suck

>.> sadly asm's speed is over looked now by people like you .... who relay on their computer's speed to process code that might be simplified to run faster. >.> imagen your code being a fat big that moves slowly.... well if you give it some rocket propellers =O of course it will move fast... but that still doesnt change the fact its a fat pig >.>'

P.S. =P and nope wont leave just, to tick you off

&Vage · Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject:

sponge · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:51 am Post subject:

Zand · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 2:04 am Post subject:

KNOWING how to adjust your compiler to get rid off the extra bullshit goes a long way.

Sure, C++ converts to native code. What if what the compiler churns out is no different from your handwritten code?

Flyte · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:17 am Post subject:

Well, now that I'm done eating my popcorn I can let most of you have the privilege of knowing why you suck cock. (Note: Not all of you. In fact, the only one who actually sucks cock is crayzbeef since he tried to argue a subject he had no foundation in.)

That doesn't mean you weren't all without some flaw though:

The loading time of the operating system has little to do with code, in fact. Most of the time is spent loading resources off of the hard drive, and coding the entire loader in ASM would provide little benefit. Fun fact: Most of it is in ASM anyways.
SSE/MMX is somewhat outdated (you could argue that MMX still has it's uses). You should be using SSE3 (no, isn't the same thing), or if you are lucky enough to have a Core i7, SSE4.2 (assuming they actually added it to the architecture as promised, I haven't been able to check since I don't have the money for an i7)
crayzbeef had one small point that I should mention: Coding it in C and optimizing the time critical aspects in ASM. This could be useful for something that maybe gets started once every few days but runs constantly (like a brute-forcer or hash generator or some such thing).
zDaniel365z: "......" and ">.>" aren't proper punctuation, haha (Had to point that out since you definitely overused them. ). Though, you could argue that they were in fact ellipses. Either way; overused.
C is not overrated. There is nothing else to say; though I do love using FASM.
While ASM is great for speed, no employer will pay you "per-line". Maybe in your dreams.
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Profit

crayzbeef · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:18 am Post subject:

DoomsDay · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject:

crayzbeef, I dare you to find a way to produce anything faster than that using a high-level language (no inline assembly allowed):

manc · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject:

LoL, I love Flyte's post. Nothin like hearin a cynical (yet humorous) Penn & Teller style roast from a /b/tard Surprised

samuri25404 · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject:

This's become pretty much a flame fest..

Anyways, yes, Assembly is the fastest. There's no doubt about that, but there are also times when Assembly would be just plain stupid to use. (e.g. a web server.) Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Assembly shouldn't be used period, rather it should be wrapped around a higher-level language to make life just a little bit easier on the developer, and increase development-time by a ton.

The thing is, with a giant ass project, there is no way that you can consistently "savagely optimize code" all throughout your project, without sacrificing your development time. In the industry, although speed is of the essence, a little bit more speed for a fuck lot more development time just isn't really worth it. This explains, basically, why a lot of commercial applications are written in higher level languages.

Edit:

I didn't see Flyte's post when I'd written this; my bad.

crayzbeef · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject:

samuri25404 · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:29 pm Post subject:

Linux != Windows

Overload · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: