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Frostbyt3 Master Cheater
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Nobody mentioned Python?
A great first language if you know basic concepts of programming, and its plenty powerful. No lengthy compile-times either, and its completely cross-platform.
Syntax quite alike VB too.
If you don't like that, then C# without hesitation.
Don't go for VB. It teaches you sloppy coding techniques.
This all depends on what you want to do.
If you want to be a hacker(Not game hacker or cracker(Public perception of hackers), then go Lisp or pure C(So you can use UNIX to its potential)
Traditional Coding, Python / C#.
Games C#, and then C++(Sigh), but you can stick with C#
Networking, Java(Without a doubt)
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DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots.
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Noz3001 I'm a spammer
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| sphere90 wrote: | | noz3001 wrote: | | Also, Java is a really good language as long as you don't only want to program retarded things like bots and DLL's. |
C# also. |
Depends on what you are making. I will never use C# because I know C++. With java I can write useful programs which run and look the same on every platform.
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sphere90 Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| noz3001 wrote: | | sphere90 wrote: | | noz3001 wrote: | | Also, Java is a really good language as long as you don't only want to program retarded things like bots and DLL's. |
C# also. |
Depends on what you are making. I will never use C# because I know C++. With java I can write useful programs which run and look the same on every platform. |
For me, I use C++ to implement low level stuff and C# when high productivity is required (as I don't need to reinvent the wheel).
| Rot1 wrote: | I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots. |
It IS one of the best. C++ is a very versatile and flexible language. You can code virtually anything with it.
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vsdagama Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Can someone tell me how to be able to make .exe of the cpp files I make in the C++ tut?? (in Visual C++ 2008 express edition that is)
I did it once and an exe apeared in the map I chose, but can't find it again :p
So how do I make the cpp files I wrote into exe's??
thanks!
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Spawnfestis GO Moderator
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Rot1 wrote: | I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots. |
Actually agreeing with you for once.
People always say "C++ omfg it's 1337 i can hekzzz 4 every1" without knowing jackshit.
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DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Spawnfestis wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots. |
Actually agreeing with you for once.
People always say "C++ omfg it's 1337 i can hekzzz 4 every1" without knowing jackshit. |
But to be honest, all this argument about programming language is BULLSHIT!, because it's all compiled to a Win32 PE (asm), haha.
same shit every where.
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Noz3001 I'm a spammer
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Rot1 wrote: | | Spawnfestis wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots. |
Actually agreeing with you for once.
People always say "C++ omfg it's 1337 i can hekzzz 4 every1" without knowing jackshit. |
But to be honest, all this argument about programming language is BULLSHIT!, because it's all compiled to a Win32 PE (asm), haha.
same shit every where. |
Then why don't we all code in Visual Basic?
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DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| noz3001 wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | | Spawnfestis wrote: | | Rot1 wrote: | I love how everyone throws C++ without even knowing existing of other languages.
people just say "C++ IS THE BEST !!" just because of one, then the rest follow him like a group of parrots. |
Actually agreeing with you for once.
People always say "C++ omfg it's 1337 i can hekzzz 4 every1" without knowing jackshit. |
But to be honest, all this argument about programming language is BULLSHIT!, because it's all compiled to a Win32 PE (asm), haha.
same shit every where. |
Then why don't we all code in Visual Basic? |
because the syntax to some people is uncomfterable.
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nog_lorp Grandmaster Cheater
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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They aren't all the same. Firstly, they don't all compile to Win32 PE - Java doesn't, Lisp is generally interpreted, etc. Secondly, those that do compile to Win32 PE don't necessarily compile to similar executables. .NET languages compile to .NET bytecode which is interpreted. Pre-.NET Visual Basic is also interpreted to a degree.
Different compilers will also optimize differently, etc.
I'd say, for C/C++, the Intel compiler has to be best. It does an excellent job of full optimization (including weird SSE optimization that most compilers won't do). I ran a test for random number generation with a variety of compilers for an SSE-optimized mersenne twister psuedo-random number generator, and Intel's compiler won out (although it lost to gcc with the non-SSE optimized version of the algorithm).
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vsdagama Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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where could I find a printable version of this: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
or soemthing similar??
So I can read it in bed and don't have to stare at my screen for houres :p
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| Rot1, next time think before you post anything. You always contradicting yourself.
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Frostbyt3 Master Cheater
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| vsdagama wrote: | Can someone tell me how to be able to make .exe of the cpp files I make in the C++ tut?? (in Visual C++ 2008 express edition that is)
I did it once and an exe apeared in the map I chose, but can't find it again :p
So how do I make the cpp files I wrote into exe's??
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Go to build>Build Solution, and then it will be in either /Debug/Bin or /Release/Bin
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| C++ Would be the best choice to start (& progress) at.
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DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| FYI, Before approaching to C++ or anything else, C is the Basic to everything, you must learn it before anything else.
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