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LolSalad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Assistance building decent gaming computer < $1000 AUD. Reply with quote

Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31-DS3L $105
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 $265
GPU: 512MB 9800GT $191
RAM: Apacer 2*1GB DDR2 800MHz $46
HDD: Seagate SATA 400GB $92
Case / Power Supply: Antec Sonata III with 500W PSU $206
Cooling: Thermaltake Blue Orb II $45
$950 AUD in total.

If any of this sounds stupid or any one part is incompatible with another, it's because I'm terrible with hardware; feel free to laugh, as long as you tell me where I went wrong. Anyway, a few questions:

Would I be able to get a cheaper motherboard that is still compatible?

I don't plan to overclock, so I decided to go dual core instead of quad, as I've heard that quad core is only worth it if you're going to overclock. Is this going to make much of a difference in games like Crysis (Warhead) and FarCry 2, and if so, for better or worse?

Would I be able to sacrifice on the case / cooling to get it cheaper and still keep it running smoothly?

And lastly, will this be able to run Crysis (Warhead) at high with at least 4x AA at at least 24FPS on average at 1680x1050, and FarCry 2 at ultra high with at least 30FPS on average? I would go for an 8800GT but my current computer has one and I know for a fact that AA in Crysis causes massive performance loss and I've heard that the 9800GT is pretty much the same as an 8800GT but with improved performance with AA and shaders.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lil question
How much is the Q6600 in AUD
Cuz i'd get one of those if i were you

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for Quad
Go for ATI Radeon 4870

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For gaming go for DUALCORE, not quad. Don't listen to the fucktard.

Also you wont get any preformance difference between 8800GT and 9800GT/GTX/GTX+.
Get ATI, 4850/4870.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warioren wrote:
For gaming go for DUALCORE, not quad. Don't listen to the fucktard.

Also you wont get any preformance difference between 8800GT and 9800GT/GTX/GTX+.
Get ATI, 4850/4870.

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Depending on the game engine and settings, you can get a noticeable performance improvement. In some cases, while running Supreme Commander, you can get a 10-20 FPS improvement, while FPS are at an unplayable low. Source 1, Source 2

There's usually a good 30% performance difference between the 8800GT and the 9800GTX and 9800GTX+. The 9800GT was more of a rebrand (just like the 8800GS to 9600GSO), without much performance improvement (although I've heard the AA and shaders have been improved).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warioren wrote:
For gaming go for DUALCORE, not quad. Don't listen to the fucktard.

Also you wont get any preformance difference between 8800GT and 9800GT/GTX/GTX+.
Get ATI, 4850/4870.

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I think you are the "fucktard" here.

Nearly all new games support quads.
Some more than the others.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's how it is now:

Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31-DS3L $105
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 $295
GPU: 512MB ATI 4850 $244
RAM: Apacer 2*1GB DDR2 800MHz $46
HDD: Seagate SATA 500GB $98
Case / Power Supply: Thermaltake Wing RS101 with 430W PSU $95
Cooling: Thermaltake Blue Orb II $45

Total of $928 AUD.

Will the 430W PSU be enough, and is there anywhere else I can sacrifice to lower the cost without causing problems?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That mobo is out of date, and not the best board in the first place.
Get a Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L.

And for the best prices in Australia, I can't go past http://www.staticice.com.au/.

My advice is:



Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L.L $120

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 $257

GPU: 512MB ATI 4850 $210

RAM: Hynix 4gb 800mhz kit $76

HDD: Maxtor SATA 500GB $60

Case / Power Supply: Thermaltake Wing RS101 with 430W PSU $88

OR
Case : Coolermaster CM690 (I have one, its awesome) $115

Psu : Anything 450w+ $~80

Cooling: No Need, stock is fine

Total:
Thermaltake Wing: $811

CM 690: $~918

I'd personally go with the 690, and spend a bit more on either PSU or up to a 4870.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks heaps, Frostbyt3. I will go for the EP45-DS3L and the Coolermaster CM690 case with a 460W PSU, and get the Maxtor HDD instead of Seagate. I'll stick to 2GB RAM for now.

That site is a great help for pricing, too. Thanks again.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LolSalad wrote:
Thanks heaps, Frostbyt3. I will go for the EP45-DS3L and the Coolermaster CM690 case with a 460W PSU, and get the Maxtor HDD instead of Seagate. I'll stick to 2GB RAM for now.

That site is a great help for pricing, too. Thanks again.


Maxtor is pretty much Seagate. I read the labels on the 4 Maxtor hard drives I have, and they're all manufactured by Seagate.

I approve (mostly) of frost's build, although you could cut a lot by getting a cheaper case. You could invest more on the system RAM and hard drive, and a good Corsair PSU (although I haven't had any problems with my Ultra and Antec PSUs yet).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a 500GB HDD, its much cheaper.
Also change this:
GPU: 512MB 9800GT $191
To ATI 4850.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warioren wrote:
Get a 500GB HDD, its much cheaper.
Also change this:
GPU: 512MB 9800GT $191
To ATI 4850.

Regards Humper


Read the replies.

LolSalad wrote:
Here's how it is now:

Motherboard: Gigabyte EP31-DS3L $105
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 $295
GPU: 512MB ATI 4850 $244
RAM: Apacer 2*1GB DDR2 800MHz $46
HDD: Seagate SATA 500GB $98
Case / Power Supply: Thermaltake Wing RS101 with 430W PSU $95
Cooling: Thermaltake Blue Orb II $45

Total of $928 AUD.

Will the 430W PSU be enough, and is there anywhere else I can sacrifice to lower the cost without causing problems?

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