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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Building new computer! Reply with quote

im from australia and was wondering if someone could build me a gaming computer (like post parts that work together)
Im willing to spend $3000 Au

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same i need a gaming pc fir $3000 australia.
www.xpmicro.com.au
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow that pdf has an extensive range of stuff on it lol
but i need someone to help out still

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'gaming' doesn't really elaborate on what games you're going to play.
If you're going to be playing mid-end games, you don't even need to spend need $3000, not to mention, you won't even need to spend up to $2000.

Although, for the MOST general games released so far, I'd go for this kind of rig:

    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (unless you want a quad ...)
    Motherboard: Any good P45 chipset board
    RAM: 4GB DDR2 (don't get DDR3, not worth it, unless, overclocker whore)
    HDD: Western Digital 640GB 16MB SATAII
    GPU: ATI HD4870 OR ATI HD4870 x 2
    Case: Thermaltake Armor+ or a CoolerMaster 690 w/ side windows! Smile
    PSU: Corsair HX-620!
    Optical Drive: ASUS 20x BLT-2014 Lightscribe SATA
    CPU HSF: Noctua NH-U12P Performance CPU Cooler
    Fans: Noctua NF-P12-1300 120mm Fan


If NVIDIA and for SLI motherboards, go for the 750i, 780i or 790i SLI chipsets. Like, the listed following:

    Asus P5N-T
    Asus Striker Series
    EVGA/XFX 750i FTW, 780i, 790i
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou so much mozilla ill rep you when i get rep back ive reped already today

i was thinking of playing crysis-countestrike souce-halflife 2-unreal tournament 3-and when it comes out diablo 3
those kind of games

how much more for quad core??

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh damn, with $3000 you can build an awesome computer.
If you want to get some parts your self, goto
http://www.tigerdirect.com
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh but i dont know which parts work with the motherboard and what not
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beasthacker wrote:
yeh but i dont know which parts work with the motherboard and what not


You'll have a bit of trouble building a computer.

Crysis can run well on a $600-$700 USD computer. Generally, I think Mozilla's build is pretty good. I'd definitely go with a Q6600, or a Yorkfield equivalent. 2GB of RAM should be enough, 4GB is a bit overkill even for Crysis (1.5GB at the most, +300MB for the operating system and other processes). An HD 4850, or similar NVIDIA counterparts (8800GT - 9800GTX+) should offer better price/performance, while still being able to run your games well. For CPU fan, stock will do fine, even if you're going to overclock a bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thnx for that super weapons
but is quad core worth getting even tho most games use dual cores
would future games start using quad core?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beasthacker wrote:
Thankyou so much mozilla ill rep you when i get rep back ive reped already today

i was thinking of playing crysis-countestrike souce-halflife 2-unreal tournament 3-and when it comes out diablo 3
those kind of games

how much more for quad core??


No problem. Smile

If you want to go with Quad Core, and want to go with the best. Get the Intel QX9775, although, it's very expensive and I'm sure you wouldn't possibly need that much power.

You can check out this link, http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q1-2008/3D-Studio-Max-9,369.html. It'll help you towards your "dilemma".

The Q6600 uses an older fabrication technique (65nm), and therefore, it produces more heat and can be overclocked less than it's newer (45nm) counterpart. Although, the Q6600 still manages to overclock to great levels and stays relatively cool. The Q6600 also comes in two different "flavours". G0 stepping and B3 stepping. G0 is the newer stepping and is a revised model of the Q6600 and allows it to be overclocked further.

If you were to be going with the Q6600 and the Q9450. The Q6600 would be the 'best bang for buck' (as most say), and the Q9450 would be the 'best at stock speed' and the Q9450 has good performance and efficiency and can be overclocked really well. If you're going to overclock with the Q9450, be notified that the max multiplier is at x8 instead of x9 (Q6600). Therefore, you will need a really good motherboard where you can get great FSB increments for that high overclock and performance boost.

beasthacker wrote:
ok thnx for that super weapons
but is quad core worth getting even tho most games use dual cores
would future games start using quad core?


Generally, yes, they would support 4 cores.
Have a look at this benchmark, it might help you.



Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not get an "Extreme" processor. If you seriously want the best processor, wait for Nehalem. SLI and Crossfire are a waste of money. For RAM, you only need 2GB for most games, get a mobo with 4 RAM slots, they're more future-proof.

Processor: Q6600/Q8200, or Q9450
Graphics Card: 8800 GT or 4850 HD (no SLI or CrossFire)
HDD: 10,000 RPM *Raptor
PSU: Anything with over 500 Watts will do

Total cost should be under $1000, and it plays Crysis on Gamer settings.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapion124 wrote:
Do not get an "Extreme" processor. If you seriously want the best processor, wait for Nehalem. SLI and Crossfire are a waste of money. For RAM, you only need 2GB for most games, get a mobo with 4 RAM slots, they're more future-proof.

Processor: Q6600/Q8200, or Q9450
Graphics Card: 8800 GT or 4850 HD (no SLI or CrossFire)
HDD: 10,000 RPM *Raptor
PSU: Anything with over 500 Watts will do

Total cost should be under $1000, and it plays Crysis on Gamer settings.

Sorry I'll say this is shit.
If you want a gaming computer get a DUALCORE.
But if you get a high clocked quad its also good so this is what I recommend by my own tries of different builds.
CPU: E84-6-00, Q6600, Q9550
GPU: ATI, 4870/4870X2 (4870 CF) if you got 3000AUS
RAM: XP, 2gb if you overclock much 1066 MHz, but id say if you overclock like me not that much (like from 2.2gHz to 3gHz) you'll be fine with 800mHz.
HDD: NOT RAPTOR, their expensive and you don't gain so much and they sound very much.
Either buy 2x 500/640/1000GB in raid 0 or a singel one and will get a bit slower then raptor.
PSU: Corsair 750watt would do it.

Regards Humper
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow thanks guys and humper , Mozilla Firefox for all your help this really helps me thanks
and 1 rep for mozzilas contribution

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Warioren"]
rapion124 wrote:
Do not get an "Extreme" processor. If you seriously want the best processor, wait for Nehalem. SLI and Crossfire are a waste of money. For RAM, you only need 2GB for most games, get a mobo with 4 RAM slots, they're more future-proof.

If you want a gaming computer get a DUALCORE.

Regards Humper


Any newer game is going to exploit multicore, in fact you HAVE to if you want to be a games for windows title.

http://www.pdelphigameshardware.com/aid,663817/Reviews/Far_Cry_2_GPU_and_CPU_benchmarks/?article_id=663817&page=2

If anything, Nehalem is a waste of money now if you want to game, it's not scaling well there at all.

4gb of ram is $40, big woop.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that's why i didn't thank rapion he obviously didn't know what he was talking about
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